• I don't think that segregation is the solution or that the ideal should be a system where bicycles are completely removed from the road. However introduction of decent segregated lanes/paths to tackle problems is fine as long as it is well executed. Well executed cycle lane and London never seem to go together.

    What sums it up for me over these now 8 pages is from @dancing james

    Given that most accidents occur at junctions putting cyclists into out of sight, out of mind, segregated lanes which acquiesce priority at every road they converge with is a recipe for disaster.

  • Given that most accidents occur at junctions putting cyclists into out of sight, out of mind, segregated lanes which acquiesce priority at every road they converge with is a recipe for disaster.

    Which is exactly what people are not asking for. Yes that's what tfl and councils have had in mind for a while but it is a straw man to suggest that the pro-segregation argument is calling for more of the same. What they are calling for is segregated lane that has priority over side roads and at junctions with separate and equitable light phases...

    You can't dismiss calls for more infrastructure by pointing and laughing at what currently exists...

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