• "A small, yet vocal, group that is male-dominated, testosterone-driven and that lacks basic understanding of human nature. They expect that everyone should be just like them - classic sub-cultural point of view - and that everyone should embrace cycling in traffic and pretending they are cars. They are apparently uninterested in seeing grandmothers, mothers or fathers with children or anyone who doesn't resemble then contributing to re-creating the foundations of liveable cities by reestablishing the bicycle as transport."

    @cyclelove Ha, that pretty much sums this place up ;)

    Although the argument is undermined by the description of this group as "small"... How many is small? And how much larger is the imaginary group who will start cycling on the new cycle lanes? Answer: It's imaginary.

    I'm sorry to see you get shouted down on here, but you've taken the argument to possibly the most hostile place possible. When I said "don't expect us not to grumble" it was a subtle warning about the name-calling you'd probably attract.

    @jimmy_james for the reasons you outline, I would definitely support limited cycle lanes for specific routes in london, NOT on arterial roads, but perhaps around schools, parks, and definitely in / through parks. More opportunities for those less confident or experienced to cycle in London would be great, but not at the expense of the safety of thousands who already cycle each day.

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