Digital photography

iPhone 6+

FTFY.

optical stabilizer FTW, abet a bit big though.

A second hand RX100 II would actually be a good buy.

Not too impressive with the Ricoh GR though, it's a great camera but the RX100 is much more flexible.

RX100 III would be worth getting if you can afford it just for that bigger F-stop at 70mm (2.8 instead of 4.0*).

*max 4.9 at 100mm

I would rather pay to get a real camera... esp I have only just bought a new mobile... boo

I would rather pay to get a real camera...

You wash your mouth boy.

likewise Ed, likewise.

6D, 40mm stm

well nice!

The framing is a bit dodge but there was no space to move further back...

I like the tight framing - gives it a slightly uncomfortable feeling like it's a top-secret government project or something

I would rather pay to get a real camera...

Don't blame you. I really don't like taking pictures with phones, especially if moving or in a hurry.

they are good when you are in a hurry to take some pics as reference and / or to use it as a different kind of scanner, but as a proper compact camera, not my cup of tea.

I would rather pay to get a real camera...

Yea, sorry - I'm all for "real" cameras instead of using phones, it's just like:
What are you gonna say when somebody asks that question, that has been asked a hundred times in this thread already - without giving any further info on what you aim to do with it, what your price range is, if you prefer / already have experience with a certain maker, if you need / want a zoom or if fixed is fine, if you really need weatherproofing etc. etc. -
it's just hard to help really, so I gave a very generic answer to your very generic question.
Still quite a bit serious at the same time though, as for people who don't necessarily have specific needs, an iPhone 6 can actually be a super camera, and one that you have always with you.

as I said, it's just not my cup of tea, there isn't anything wrong with people using their phones as cameras these days. And I don't think my question is overly generic, it's not like I asked what's a good camera. I just thought people have experience with using certain cameras when touring, and to be honest, I don't have a particular perference with compact cameras. Fair enough if you or others use their moible as caemra when touring. And iPhone 6 is only a good camera if you have 1 already, as I don't have it and did already mention than I only just bought a new mobile, so I would rather get a real camera with my money. This is by no mean saying the iPhone 6 cant take good pics.

What are you gonna say when somebody asks that question, that has been asked a hundred times in this thread already

OP asked for a camera. Not a smartphone with a particularly outstanding camera. These days I don't think it's necessary to point out that 'your phone has a camera on it, you know!'

they are good when you are in a hurry to take some pics as reference and / or to use it as a different kind of scanner, but as a proper compact camera, not my cup of tea.

I agree; to me they're basically 'better than no camera at all'.
I accept that people have launched photography careers off the back of shooting with phones, but they remain unwieldy and awkward to me. They're light, but the volume button on the iPhone requires a firm press (usually moving the phone) to take a shot - otherwise you're left with poking the screen (always moving the phone). I also find the iPhone too thin to properly grip, and generally slippery.
Accessories that attempt to 'fix' these appalling ergonomics usually render the phone larger than something truly compact (like a Canon S120) or demand to be attached/removed every time you need to take a picture.
Those are just a few of the reasons I prefer a separate camera.

OP asked for a camera. Not a smartphone with a particularly outstanding camera.

He did says touring, and the iPhone exceed in that category.

Otherwise, being extremely biased because I used one for touring; Sony RX100.

He did says touring

Yep, the one cycling activity where you probably don't want photography to eat through the battery life of your GPS/phone/web device.

Fwiw I prefer cameras that have two strap lugs to enable use of a shoulder strap worn across the body (shoulder straps looped to and from the same lug are miserable). Means the camera can stay close to hand, and dangle out of the way when riding.

These days I don't think it's necessary to point out that 'your phone has a camera on it, you know!'

Well @ExTra just got a new phone, so that suggestion is lapsed, but for most people this is the season to get new phones - so my thinking was rather: maybe spend a little more on a phone that already has a proper camera built-in, likely this will be all you need.
My intent was not to point out that phones have cams now, as if everybody was too thick to realize that.
I do think most people have not realized yet though, that - for what the majority of them is actually doing with a camera, and what they are actually doing with the files later (putting them on the internet, maybe browsing them on laptops fullscreen, but not making big prints from them) - the current generation of top smartphones will do this very job just fine, so it might actually be a very good solution as you need a phone anyways and have a camera that does what you want always with you, right in your pocket.

Yep, the one cycling activity where you probably don't want photography to eat through the battery life of your GPS/phone/web device.

Unless you shoot every 5 minutes, it doesn't eat the battery, especially when you put it on airplane mode.

Biggest advantage is being able to edit on the spot/later in the evening, a phone screen have a high enough resolution to see whether the photo you took is decent or not (easier to spot camera shake).

Unless you shoot every 5 minutes, it doesn't eat the battery, especially when you put it on airplane mode.

Touring is possibly one of the most likely situations in which even the most un-racer Grant Petersen worshipper would actually like to map their ride. And have a working phone for emergencies (there may come a time when you're injured, alone, need to make a call and don't actually have the faculties or time to fuck around in your iPhone settings).

Biggest advantage is being able to edit on the spot/later in the evening, a phone screen have a high enough resolution to see whether the photo you took is decent or not (easier to spot camera shake).

If you're editing pictures on the road (after each day's touring), and you really actually like taking pictures, and iPad Mini + SD card reader or MacBook Air isn't too much to take with you and will be far easier on your eyes than fucking about on an iPhone (not to mention how difficult it is to transfer images off an iPhone without an internet connection). Oh, and then there's the storage issue.
An added bonus of having a separate camera is that you can (just about) afford to drop it, get it wet, or lose it. I'm not a fan of putting everything into one device, mainly for that reason.

And have a working phone for emergencies (there may come a time when you're injured, alone, need to make a call and don't actually have the faculties or time to fuck around in your iPhone settings).

Well if you're not able any more to swipe up the bottom menu and tap on the airplane symbol one time you might not be fit to make a phone call anyways so you're fucked.
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Whats all this babble with taking iPads and card readers or macbook airs,
and then there's the storage issue - lol, wut?

Jesus Christ just take great pictures with your phone and be happy,
or take great pictures with some fucking camera you can afford and that looks cool, fuck it.

Way too much tedious what-should-I-buy-blabber in this thread and hardly anybody posting any pictures.

Hipster bagel shop in Budapest.

Seriously though, the bagel is fucking amazing, proper Jewish style too.

If you'd done your research, you'd know that the camera on the 6 is better than on the +, and the OS had have some issues.

not to mention how difficult it is to transfer images off an iPhone without an internet connection

Bro do you even Airdrop? Or Photosync, which I've using for years before Apple finally got their act together.

Doesn't the + have optic image stabiliser? either way, got any article on this? all I can see is that the camera is the same.

Hmm seems they grade them the same, for some reason I though the 6 was better than the plus for some reason. Can't remember where I read that though.

http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Apple-iPhone-6-and-6-Plus-review-Bigger-and-better.-Apple-set-gold-standard-for-smartphone-image-quality