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The ERD is 592 and it's always been 592... the 450 grams is a bit of a legend... I have never seen any of that imaginary crop... and I've been building them for over 2 years now... they first landed in the UK in the spring of 2012... I built the first around September 2012... the only thing that changed is the grey was light and matt and now it's dark and shiny
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Re Archetypes. Im fairly sure teh change in ERD came after they thickened up the spoke bed. The first b atch of archetypes all weighed 450g, now they are 470.