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  • So surely if they can do 2.35mm, 2.11mm isn't too much of a stretch? the difference between 10 speed and 11 speed is a big one, not because of the extra cog, but the quality in shifting, braking etc. as you'd expect from a next generation groupset, 5800 for £300 is a bargain and I'm fairly sure if you wait for a code or two at probikekit you could get it for £270ish

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