Your Garmin help, please

Comparing your photo with the ones in this link, it appears that you may have ripped off the battery socket from the garmin when you removed the old battery plug? On the top right corner of the circuit board in your photo there should be a plastic socket for you to plug the battery into. Instead there's just 5 spots of solder........: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?33752-Edge-800-Replacing-Battery-Pics-and-some-info-not-complete-yet/page2

If you have the old battery see if the socket is still attached. From memory, the angle you pull the battery plug away from the garmin is key. In one direction it comes away easy, in others it won't and you may well pull off the socket with the plug.

I think that, if this is the case and you retrieve the socket you should be able to glue it back on and add a dab of solder at the 5 points to reconnect the connections.

Let me know what you find......

I tried connecting my 800 to my phone (android) last night using sportablet. I obviously did something wrong as it wiped all the activities on the garmin and reset my settings. It now won't let me set up my bike profiles again and won't find my cadence sensor. Is it worth master resetting the whole thing/are there any reasons why I shouldn't do this?

I think that, if this is the case and you retrieve the socket you should be able to glue it back on and add a dab of solder at the 5 points to reconnect the connections.

It looks to me like only the 3 closely spaces pads in a line would need to be soldered if you've glued the connector down; the other 2 look to be just for physically fixing the connector.

Yep, could be. A photo of the unstuck socket may shed some light on it. The danger with the soldering is that you don't melt the existing solder and loosen what ever is connected on the other side of the board. I tried to solder something similar before in a hurry and let's just say it didn't work.....this may be a more foolproof option: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/circuitworks-conductive-pen-standard-tip-n73aa

I'm considering getting an 810 as I'm keen to use the mapping functionality to get out on the bike more and do some routes that are new to me. With some vouchers I can buy the unit for £180, but can someone explain the need for maps to me? I understand that the base maps are useless, and you can buy Garmin's official maps. Is it worth getting these, or is the open source alternative any good?

Thanks!

I am not sure about outside of the UK, but for domestic navigating:

http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/a-quick-guide-to-free-osm-maps-for-garmin-gps-devices/

I have done this on my 800 and it worked a treat. Had to buy a 2GB MicroSD card for about £4, but that's a lot cheaper than basemaps. However I'd be interested to know if the Garmin certified are much better..

1. Read this: http://sportivecyclist.com/garmin-edge-800-vs-810/ and decide if the 800 is sufficient for your needs. The 810 is just an 800 with some smartphone connectivity stuff. The mapping/routing capabilities are the same for both. The 800 can be had for less money.

2. Maps. Base maps are pretty useless. The free maps are great, easy to install and will be more up to date than anything else. No one needs to buy maps. Instructions here: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/download-garmin-705800810.html

^ I also use those maps and have never had a problem with them.

Agree re the 800 vs 810 debate. I don't know anyone who stumped up the extra cash for the 810 so that they could bluetooth their rides to their mobile phone...I'm sure there are actual improvements to the 800 but they aren't obvious to a techno-simpleton like myself.

Bezzin you sound like you could use a little repost from earlier in the thread - you can plan a route from your desktop computer upload it and watch/listen to the routing on a Garmin 500 (200/510 as well). Garmin >500 are a benefit if you get lost and want to see what other roads is around you.

But maybe you are just like me and love to get lost in a 1.st world country to give you that survivor-rush.

The garmin basemap at maximum detail.

Comparison of the free openstreetmap and city navigator europe
These are set to the same zoom and detail levels.

Thanks all - interesting that the open source one is so much more detailed! Sounds like I have some thinking to do regarding 800 and 810. And then there are the touring options too (which I've heard really mixed things about). @Thuekr the 510 uses breadcrumb navigation, no? So you don't see a route as such, just follow a line of dots?

The 510 gives you line on your screen, the name of the road, an icon showing you the next turn, audible sound when you are approaching the turn - and breadcrumbs from your position if you should deviate from the route :)

Sounds good hey ;-)

Full side by side comparison of Garmin Touring vs Garmin Touring Plus vs 800 vs 810: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/08/garmin-touring-computer.html#comparison-to-other-garmin-edge-units

The dcrainmaker reviews are a great resource and if he doesn't cover it, it's not worth worrying about.

Seems like the touring versions have a few more navigation options that allow route generation and navigating between points on the fly. Touring plus is ant+ capable, standard touring is not.

Routing on the 500, I suspect the 510 is very similar.

http://velogps.com/garmin-edge-500-turn-turn-directions-courses/

The 510 is similar - but the 510 fails when the trip is longer than 80-120k's.

I suspect it hits the waypoint limit.

Interesting, thanks all, will look at the side by side reviews of Touring, 800, 810. I know a couple of people with 810s who really like them, hence why I'm probably leaning that way. Not sure I like the sound of waypoint limits - this would be for longer rides

The 800 and 810 do not have waypoint limits per se in normal use as most routes and courses created as gpx files do not contain any waypoints but rather have track points. There can be many 1000's of track points in a course.

The 800 and I suspect the 810 do though have a waypoint limit of 200 but in 99.9% of cases this is irrelevant as they are not used or needed unless deliberately added to a gpx file.

My friend routed from London to Rome without any issues.

I have a gpx file of the "way of the roses" 273km and 3823 track points, this routed me ok on my 800.

Where's the best place to download the Open Street Maps file, for Europe, for a Garmin 810?

From source here
http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

I prefer generic routable (new style)

The whole of europe will be a large file, France alone is approx 1.2gb.

Will that slow it down? I just thought, given SD cards are so large now, why not?

That aside, I put the latest OSM file on my SD card, put that into the 810, now I can't select the OSM file when I try to go: Activity Profiles -> (Your Profile) -> Navigation -> Map -> Map Information/Select Map, any ideas anyone?

Strike that, power-cycled it and ta-da!

@timmah you have pobably sorted this but
http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/183209/?offset=300
should sort you out. You could stick a new detachable mount like the 705s have onto the back of your 500.