Sidi shoes

Getting a size with a little extra room is a good thing anyway. Buy some new insoles straight away. I just bought some new ones and they are amazing in comparison. But thicker than the cardboard sidi give you so will take up the extra room

Got some Eagle 5-Fit while they were £106.99 on Wiggle yesterday - went for the 46.5 based on foot length in cm and my relation to the 46 Mavic Rush. Been through about £450 worth of purchases/returns on cycling shoes this month, so I really bloody hope they fit - I can't bear too many more trips to the sorting office!

They didn't fit. Seems the idea that Sidis come up really small is no longer correct - should have just ignored the size chart and stuck to a 46 like in everything else, but now Wiggle and Ribble are out of stock in the Black 46, and back to full price on Wiggle anyway!

4 inch at widest point.

Inches?

Mods, ban him.

would love some help, what is the difference between these models

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/sidi-mtb-dominator-5-mega-fit-shoes-2014/rp-prod95295

and

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/sidi-mtb-dominator-5-fit-shoes-2014/rp-prod95294

im a 45 in sidi road shoes but always suspected they may be ever so slightly too big. gonna order 44 and 45 see what suits

The fit. One is Mega and the other one isn't.
Also, I would strongly advise you get them from here - http://www.sidicafe.co.uk/sidi-mtb-dominator-5-srs.html.

This is the SRS version so you can replace the sole once it's worn down.

mega = wide feet?

yep, mega is wide feet.

out of interest, what size are you in EU shoes generally? I've just ordered some Genius 5s and am nervously awaiting trying them on.... Went for 45, and I've previously used 44 in Spesh MTB shoes. That means I'm reading everything possible for an Internet Shoe Fit, despite knowing that realistically they will either fit or they won't...

MTB Sidi's come up slightly larger than road btw (I think because they expect you to be wearing thicker socks?)

I have 45.5 Ergo 3's and 45 Eagles

I would also recommend the Specialized insoles - but be aware that they are larger than the standard insoles so reduce the effective size slightly - might be worth trying in your road Sidi's @swedeee

Also bear in mind @swedeee (and anyone else looking at Dominators) that they can be a false economy long term. The plastic around the cleat can/will wear away and isn't replaceable. When that happens it means your shoes don't sit squarely on the pedals as the plastic is needed to stabilise the shoe. Effective power transfer goes out the window and all sorts of other problems, you need new shoes because it can't be replaced, even if the rest of the shoe is fine.

If you can stretch to the Eagles, this part of the shoe can be replaced. I notice you're looking at the 2014 Dominators, you might be able to get 2013 Eagles cheaper than the 2014 versions.

They're also more blinging and stiffer thanks to the carbon sole but the main reason to buy them is one pair of Eagles is cheaper than two pairs of Dominators...

It was @scherrit who spotted this on my Dominators by the way, so this isn't just me talking bollocks.

Have actually just checked my Eagles (just over two years old) and these bits need replacing now.

If they were Dominators it would be new pair of shoes time.

Great advice, but how quickly do the rubber bits wear out? I've been wearing my shimano RT81 shoes for nearly 2 years now pretty much daily for commuting and there is barely any wear to the sole at all?

What's the name of the part that is replaceable?

@goonz I don't know if the same thing happens with Shimano shoes to be honest.

In my case it seems to have been about two years but of course it will depend how much you ride in them and possibly also how much you walk about in them.

@Hovis you have to buy a full set of 'MTB SRS inserts' which include the relevant parts. There are different sets for different Sidi shoes.

For me it's this kit - the parts I need are the middle set of red bits:
http://www.sidicafe.co.uk/sidi-mtb-srs-inserts-for-mtb-carbon-sole.html

Shame you can't buy the bits separately but I suppose it makes sense to replace them all at the same time and £40 is a lot better than the cost of a new pair.

Scratch that, £24 at Winstanleys!
http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/65198/SiDI_MTB_SRS_Carbon_Sole_Shoe_Inserts_75093S?gclid=CMT0hLGhx8ACFfSWtAodpSAAnQ

Gosh Sidi Cafe is pricey.

I'm still a tad confused. Is it the plastic/carbon sole that is wearing around the cleat? The bit that sits on top of the pedals, wearing due to twisting/pedalling forces?

I'm sure I've seen these very thin plates that you can put between cleats and sole which could be another option if I am understanding this correctly.

Those two red pieces below sit either side of the cleat with SPDs and rest on the pedal on the 'flats' either side of the cleat mechanism itself. These 'flats' are the silver coloured bits on this XTR pedal:

These are the bits that actually take the weight of the shoe/your power on the pedal - the cleat and 'locking system' do just that - hold the pedals in place, but they don't take the weight/power.

If those red bits get worn they won't reach the flats properly, and your shoe can rock about. Scheritt was able to rock mine side to side to quite a scary degree. The rubber/plastic bits didn't reach the flats.

If those bits are worn out your shoes are not sitting properly on the pedal and aside from reduced power transfer there are potentially other issues - I went to him because I fucked my knee riding a 300 audax fixed but this could have been a contributory factor.

Make sense?

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The only way I can think of to fix this without using these replacement parts would be to raise the level of the flats up by glueing/welding material on to them to raise them up to the height of the worn rubber bits but that would be one hell of a bodge!

Just a quick update... Got some dominators from ribble for £109 delivered, to replace my old sidis.... I don't even know what model they are, as they are so old. I bought them off a mate who didn't get on with them about 10 years ago, so I could try clip less for the first time, cheaply. The difference is amazing... Really, chalk and cheese. The power I can put down has massively increased, and they are way stiffer..... I can't believe I didn't change sooner! A quick 40 mile off road, and you can absolutely notice the difference....
CSB, etc.....

Oohh I see. I had no idea Spds worked this way. I'm going to have a look at my time atac equipped shoes tonight to see if its a similar story.

My Genius 5s arrived. Too big - ankle moves on full ratchet :(

Back they go - hopefully Ribble will accept an exchange with the 44s at the same price (with a now expired discount code).

cheers all for advice

@Bezzin im probably an EU44? somewhere between uk9.5 and uk10 depending on the brand. i have shimano mtb shoes in 45 which fit fine but I would prefer them a bit tighter.

i can agree that my sidi road shoes (logos) have super shite insoles and I actually should replace them to get that slightly snugger fit I am after (never thought about it to be honest). otherwise i have no qualms with them and they are quite hard wearing in my opinion

basically i need to try on 44 and 45 in both "mega" and "non-mega" before purchasing, I also had wide feet as a child but it seems as ive grown up they are more in proportion haha. although @d-goods has a good deal on some 44.5 mega dominators, which im tempted to risk purchasing

do I just order 4 pairs then send back 3? I wish someone stocked these shoes properly

The silver bits on the Xtr pedals above rest between the 2 red grip 'skirts' infront of and behind the cleat.
Am I missing something?

Yes, the red skirts I'm talking about and posted above go on either side of the cleat, not in front of/behind. Then when clicked in they rest on those silver bits.