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and, as I mentioned, there are not pictures of the front hub flanges from above so no view of the deformation. I had an exam about 30 minutes after we met, so yes, I didn't check them as I should have and am now clearly going to live to regret it. if you checked them as thoroughly you say you would have noticed it so I have to assume you mislead me willingly. I'm not playing any games here, there is no special motive for me where I win and you lose, I just wanted my money (minus the postage which I offered to pay) and you would continue to own your hubs which you class as perfectly good... all that I get from this is slightly less money and wasted time even if you did refund, which for some reason you seem to think is outrageous.