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Geometry have been sorted, he ordered the tubing and should start building it soon.
The Oaks geometry is;
**Reach: **352mm
Stack: 595mm
National Forest Explorer will be 13mm longer;
Reach: 365mm
Stack: 600mm
The main reason is that because the NFE is more of a bicycle I'll adapt regularly (from upright gravel riding to slammed touring), 365mm reach mean that if I were to run compact drop*, I'll have to run a 120mm stem (normal for a frame with a stack of 600mm), classic drop** required a 90mm stem.
*75mm reach
**100mm reach