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there is that ed, but I'm gonna stick up for the mono rs' in that i'm easily suckered by a sound
though jb's right, they're like archetypes but 1mm wider and taller and 30 grams lighter, but almost £40 more, in reality, ambrosio to archetypes is a very good wheelset and the marginal weight gain probably doesn't count for the extra cost