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  • The reason why we know so much about men gentials is because the world is full of dickhead.

  • The reason why we know so much about men gentials is because I keep posting pictures of them on the memes thread.

    #trufax

  • So non-coeliac gluten sensitivity is possibly bollocks.

    No effects of gluten in patients with self-reported non-celiac gluten sensitivity after dietary reduction of fermentable, poorly absorbed, short-chain carbohydrates.
    Less sciency link.

    From the very scientist that gave us non-coeliac gluten sensitivity in the first place.

  • ^That's the 'nocebo' effect?
    http://www.businessinsider.com/gluten-sensitivity-and-study-replication-2014-5
    Nice concept.
    If you expect to feel worse with a specific thing you will.
    (I get that when I read posts from Jeez- even though he occasionally talks sense))

  • turns machine on, new universe springs to life in a runaway reaction.

  • turns machine on, new universe springs to life in a runaway reaction.

    These machines we are building are poor imitations of nature. There are interactions in the upper atmosphere of many orders greater energy.

  • Moreover, the scientists are now closer to definitively proving Einstein wrong in his early disbelief in the notion of entanglement, in which particles separated by light-years can still appear to remain connected, with the state of one particle instantaneously affecting the state of another.

    Hold up - That's not right, is it?

    When you identify the spin state of Q (as Up, say), it means that the spin state of Q was always up - and the spin state of Q` was always down.

    No information has been transferred at all, relativity still holds, we don't disappear into massive black holes.

  • That's no way to talk about Hippy

  • When you identify the spin state of Q (as Up, say), it means that the spin state of Q was always up - and the spin state of Q` was always down.

    It doesn't mean it was always up, it means it is now up, prior to the measurement the system only has a probability of being up or down, the Copenhagen interpretation says it is both up and down prior to measurement.

    Apsect's work on Bell's paradox showed this to some extent though the results are not felt to be conclusive these days.

    Though I agree no information has been passed from A to B, relativity still holds there. they are 'proving Einstein wrong' in the sense that the collapse of the wavefunction after measurement is instantaneous.

  • As far as I recall (and the last time i did any QM in anger was in 2005) what "really happens" is interpretation dependent and you can pick whichever you prefer! I gave up and just trusted the maths.

  • As far as I recall (and the last time i did any QM in anger was in 2005) what "really happens" is interpretation dependent and you can pick whichever you prefer! I gave up and just trusted the maths.

    Last time for me was 2008, but indeed any description of the reality relies on some 'story telling'. Without an interpretation however you can only make a prediction of the result, and that result says nothing of the state pre measurement.

  • It doesn't really, but it is interesting nonetheless.

  • What do you mean?

  • He doesn't mean anything, he's an attempt at artificial intelligence, can't fool me NurseRobotface.

  • What do you mean?

    i think he's trying to start a squabble
    ain't gonna work, i believe everything i read in the papers verbatim

  • Interesting* that they chose a teenage boy with English as his second language for their AI model...

    • As in cheating bastards
  • well there are humans like that you know

  • Forrins ain't human.

  • Wait, do I need to pass a Turing test?

  • First of all it's a chatbot, not a computer, and it's not through cognitive thinking that it's passed the Turing test, it's basically duped one judge of unknown intelligence into thinking it's a 13 year old Ukrainian boy. Not through the programme thinking that's the best way of fooling a judge, but because that's what it's programmed to do.

    I still think it's pretty awesome, but I don't see that as actually passing the Turing Test.

  • ^^ you use humour in every post
    that isn't human
    thats an algo gone rogue

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