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I have a spare Cumulus quilt for sale.

I might be interested. Send me some info in the DMs?

Cheers

I bought my wife a almost new yeti for 80quid.

where?

It really hurts to read that, I thought I explained myself sufficiently

Because in a previous post of yours you asked if someone could send an item to the Netherlands?

Yeah I know, but in previous comments I said I don't know what it's like to grow up in a country with a monarchy, and in the Netherlands they do. So surely I am not dutch, right? Otherwise yes, I was trolling for real

Just because someone is British doesn’t mean they know much about the royal family or even give a shit about it

This is a fact that I didn't actually know because, you guessed it, I am not British.
And that was my whole point

I said more or less

Now who's trolling?

The way you post certainly has an air of trolling

I can assure you, that's not my intent

although your English is better than most natives.

Ta!

Do you always shut down people that think differently of you (or in my instance, people that want to understand something they know very little of) by calling them trolls?
Asking for a friend

Not Italy at all, but I get (and agree with) your point

You know when Italians celebrate stuff by dressing up in stripy trousers and feathery hats and marching around banging drums? It’s nothing like that.

With POV I meant the eyes of a person not brought up in the UK.

You can't understand it, just like I can't understand what it would be like to be born in France/Egypt or whatever other country I am not actually a citizen of

I didn't mean to make it a secret, actually.
I am Italian born and bred.

How would being dutch fit with what I said before?

I don't think you can understand my POV. The difference is, like you said, that you live with it, I'm not. Even the other way around, it would be hubris on my part to pretend to know what it's like be you

You might think that they are troll-y, but that's not the case. Let me reiterate:

I grew up in a country where monarchies are a thing of the past, so I can't really conceive how, in the 21st century, they could still be a thing. The way I see it (from the outside, which is an important factor to highlight) is like a candid camera gone too long, as a bubble waiting to burst.
I honestly can't conceive what it's like having kings, queens, dukes and all that faff, for me it's just an anachronistic joke

They are not going anywhere anytime soon even if thousands took to the streets

This is an interesting take. Why do you think so? I am making a silly comparison, but no-one would have thought that despite the strong foothold that the Church has in Spain, same sex marriages would have ever been a thing.
I would think that if something similar (i.e: the reversal of long standing institutions/dogmas) were to happen in the UK, it will be in this day and age

Mine was phrased as a question, I didn't want to lambaste you for writing in here.

Like I said I just want to understand what it's like living in a country with an (old and useless) institution as a monarchy, coming from a place where the only place you can read of kings and queens is in the history books, or in novels

In private?

As opposed to a formal protest in the streets, is what I meant.

I’d happily, publicly protest against the monarchy

But you don't, do you?

Anywhooo, I didn't mean to stir up the pot, and I wasn't suggesting youse should stop whatever you want to do/are doing in here

Can someone explain to a non-native the purpose of writing endless pages (and sometimes pointless comments) regarding something you have the uttermost disdain of?

Perhaps it's a quintessential British thing of complaining "in private", but it's not like anything said in here has the pretence, 0r the substance, of actually making a difference (i.e: the abolishment of an archaic institution).

Genuinely interested and not an inflammatory/provocative question

Understandable

can you post to the Netherlands?

Surely if he was talented he could have won, right? ;)

a strange hill to die on, this guy may or may not exhibit exceptional genetics in elite endurance sport. but its damn handy to be genetically gifted and the majority of athletes at the pinnacle of these are sports are. You cant blame scouts for seeking that. No one is telling 10 year olds to sell their bikes because they dont have enough alveoli or whatever.

It's the hill I want to die on because to me it seems like we are shaming anyone that is talented, instead of looking at how they got there.

Let me put it this way.

He had the perfect understanding of the nuances of the sport (which many youngsters lack - this is what his talent was) and the willingness to do the extra mile.

The fact that he was a late developer further proves my point, that you shouldn't tell a kid he doesn't have it, because you never now what will happen.

Wow, saying that he is delusional just because he claims that he worked the hardest, is way beyond what I thought could be said about the guy.

What you are saying is that, although he was preternaturally gifted, his talent only magically appeared as he hit puberty. Didn't we start the discussion by saying that if you don't beat 15 yo by the time you are 8, you don't have the "it" factor?

The fact that he had some of the best results in his region doesn't really mean anything. Maybe everyone else that came before him was just shit (not unusual in a sport where you need to have a technical understanding of how to practice it vs blindly putting down power like in cycling).

"most centralised rowing system in the world" doesn't equate to "best place in the world to become a winning rower". It just means that everything is closer together

Nah better to set realistic dreams. Take up cycling at 23 and are willing to train hard? Aim to get round a prem or a divs medal. The great thing about competitive (cycle) sport is that you don't have to be the best to get something out of it.

A 23 years old can understand his limitation quite well (hopefully). But what if you say that to a 10/12 years old? I think that you would fuck him up for life

Got any examples in endurance sports? (genuinely interested)

How well versed are you with rowing?
A kiwi named Hamish Bond (even tried to transition to cycling) as a junior/u19 had mediocre physiological parameters. Flash forward 10/12 years and between 2009 and 2016 never lost a race (bagged two olympic golds in the process), solely by outworking everyone else.

Still regarding rowing, I remember reading somewhere of an italian who as a 15 y.o. was told by his then coach that he didn't have nor the height or the wingspan to "make it"
To this day he has a couple of world championships wins and two olympic bronze (iirc)

I would ask you to quantitatively define how good you were on the first day vs the others with a life of training, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

Maybe what you are saying is more true for a a 3weeks stage race where is the length of the event itself which favours the genetically gifted (is it though? albeit in a different situation, look at Anna Kiesenhofer), but in other sports there are plenty of examples of people that "made it" without being born with extraordinary talent.

The other side of the coin is that if you start telling people from day 1 that they will never achieve their dreams because of something they have no control over, then what's the point in even trying? Better spending your life on a couch, drinking beer and eating pizza

If I were a highly talented (and succesful) athlete I would be even more riled up if people said that all my results are due to my genetics and not my work ethic.

A donkey may never turn in a race horse, but no amount of talent will bring you a gold medal if you don't do the work