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But is tange actually better than zona with lugs?

I like these two but I don't know if the Colossi is worth the $150 extra, I don't know much about prestige tange etc on the Soma.

http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/rush

http://www.colossicycling.com/products/bike-frames/171/mondial-track-2

Naw dawg only my dick see

Found some good ones on sale actually

u wot m8

I'm looking for some decently priced torque wrenches(preferably cheaper than Park Tools) but still good in quality that can handle each part on the bike.
Not sure what nm I need and sizes, something I'm guessing 3/8", 1/4" and 1/2"

Really? Hmm maybe I'll go for the Al Colossione then
Kinda tempted on a njs export frame but not sure how the quality is other than them mentioning chipped paint ect, if a part where there's threads is messed up or something

What do you guys think of the Colossi Mondial Track? I really like the Columbus Zona tubes. Is there any frames similar to that shape and style I should look at too?

Used the KMC Z510HX for years and no problems yet, don't see why anyone would spend lots of cash on any other chain

It is cheap, cheaply priced too. f5100 is a decent Colossi rebrand though

F5 has 100 euro's postage to here ;)! The F550s is the most beautiful frame they have which is more expensive than a Vigorelli and you still need a seatclamp and a headset..

I guess if you can get a Vigorelli with cheap or free shipping then it's worth it, the f550 is only 167.58 euro then seatclamp and headset

Woah, Dodici site actually has quite good prices. They also have Cinelli's, tempted to get a Vigorelli in my size!

They are all still more expensive than a F5 f550, f5100 custom that you can get whatever paint job you want

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Yep, nice frames. F5 have a couple of other interesting frames as well.

Is the F5100 a re branded Colossi like I think the Superb Sprint, Heavy pedal Zephyr and goldsprint classic etc are?

What's the name of this Colossi frame?

Pretty sure it's a colossi al colossione, you can get it in many colors or so sites selling the frame say but they don't state the color options

Does anyone have any experience with Blb Notorious 90 rims or the tri-spoke wheels as cheaper alternatives to hed3/specialized and s80's?
Do you think the tri-spoke will stay as true as a hed3 and the can skid on either of the Blb's?(Mostly for road training/racing, no tricks)

I would second a Pellizoli, those are some beautiful well made frames, my friend has a leggenda and it's real nice, planning to get a leggenda for3 one day..

Guerciotti Crux Track I find is a nice carbon track frame that can look HHSB with the right parts, pretty cheap when on sale, I think they are on sale on planetx.co.uk, but never bought from there before so...

49t ring and 19 or 18 on one side then 15 or 16 on the other.

I'm 48 with a 17t and 14t

Thanks

Having ridden 44x16 on my fixed, I'm planning to get a new crankset so might as well a new cog(s) for my flip-flop hub, what would you suggest for someone that goes to the velodrome 2-3 times a month but uses the same track bike on the streets to train that rides brake-less and has occasional hills(I can power though the hills on my current gearing)

So it would be better then to buy a used hed 3 than a new blb tri?

How do those cheap china carbon trispokes on ebay compare to hed 3 or the knockoffs like Blb trispoke? Will they warp sooner or break easier?

Well I hear good things about both and the frames look pretty similar, so I'm wondering why the price is so different.

What's a better quality frame I will mostly use for road and velodrome riding(2-4 times month)

Cry like a bitch

Here's mine. almost ready... waiting for fresh gum hoods.
http://www.lfgss.com/picture.php?albumid=2832&pictureid=16543

Looks great

Good god