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Aaaaahhh - please drop a link !

Juunge - Kanal abonniert ;-)

... have they gone too far ?

haha yes - 26 aint dead ;-)

Sobre still looks very interesting - anyone heard something about these guys/ any experiences ?

Thanks - i´ll will investigate further ... lets see where things take me.

Shame on them - what a waste of ressources ...

I have some decent parts dangling on an Aliexpress Santa Cruz Highball ripp-off. So it´s time for something proper - i am looking for a nice steel frame. I have made up a short list - but feel free to add. I am curious if there are more good options to look at.

Sour Pasta Party - nice but ugly headtrube and long leadtime
Fairlight Holt - nice but long leadtimes
Brother Big Bro - to heavy and pickled with eyelets
Nordest Sardinha - same as Brother
Sobre Multi - not sure how handling is with these guys

Any Polish builders offering MTB ?

Don´t want to spend a fortune - less than 1k EUR.

Thanks for your help ;-)

Haha yes @Tijs is right - these are Sim Works. Would be a great move from Michelin when they would bring back the green to their Graveltires...

These last posts are the reason to check-in here !

Readers wifes ... i apollogize

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Get this rolling again ...

Wow --- thats why i love this thread

ufff ... #soenduro

Will get rid of my Open Wide Frame (Size L) soon....

Thx - unfortunately i am in South Germany...

And some more details....

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more pictures....

Hello together,

for sale is a VOTEC VRC Evo.

One of the most versatile bikes currently on the market. With the generous tire clearance everything can be combined from road to gravel in one bike.

Bikerumor sums it up quite nicely:
https://bikerumor.com/review-votec-vrc-all-road-bike-finds-happy-medium-versatility-between-road-gravel/

Frame size "S" - perfect for riders: from 156 -170 cm.
Complete Sram Force AXS groupset, Zipp SC SL parts, Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels.
Currently equipped with Conti Terra Speed tires in 40 mm.

All the exact details can be found here: https://www.votec.com/produkt/vrc-evo/

The bike was purchased in May this year and rideen by my wife about 2500 km. Unfortunately, the paint has been somewhat affected by the use of bikepacking bags and there are signs of rubbing.

Technically everything is in good condition and serviced.

As my wife is caught by the bike packing bug - we let this one go. It´s a nice and fast bike but she requires more a touring rig

Asking for 2299, - € (Salesprice 3999, -)

Shipping within Europe no problem and would be included in the price.

Thanks for looking !

Might think about it.

Don’t ask me the weight- I didn’t care but I guess it’s short above 7 kg.
Aaah and side note - I gotta keep the pedals.