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Courtesy of HH

The frame must have a bottom bracket height of at least 265mm (from ground to centre) when using 165mm cranks (more if using longer cranks)

Gearing should be between 82 and 88 gear inches for novice riders. (48 x 15 (86″) is ideal for adult riders); a slightly higher ratio around 88-90 gear inches is preferred for racing.

Bottle mounts are completely fine btw - just no braze ons

Have you ever ridden track before? Assuming the cranks are short enough (165mm) and gearing is ok (84" - 88"??) might be worth just swapping out the bars, losing the front break and having a go before building up a whole bike.

Don't get me wrong, I've built up whole bikes on a whim - I'm sure I'm not alone there... Just a thought :-)

Would the better solution be to just get 700c guards at the appropriate width? or will it just be gappy?

Quick Q: I've got a steamroller with 650b wheels, I want to put mudguards on it. I really like the look of the PDW 650 beasts - caveat is they say they're are designed for 650b bikes - presumably means they're not going to be ideal for a 700c steamroller regarless of wheel size. Any thoughts, or alternatives? I'd like something for around 42c tyres - little more if poss

Not quite, the one I got has internal cable routing.

It also has mudguard / rack mounts which i wasn't expecting (though not a bad thing). And the profile of it is actually more similar to the one you posted. The image of the one i linked isnt great and makes it look weirdly skinny, it's quite chunky.

Speaking of steamroller disc forks - a carbon Hylix fork just arrived in the post from ebay/china. Took a while but the quality is really quite nice!

excellent advice all, thank you very much!

good point, I see people riding wide bars in town and I cant understand how they manage it. I would be commuting on mine mostly, so def something to keep in mind.

yeah big fan of bullmoose bars!

late to the party. recognise the first bike - Hollow Legs? Watched all the vids on youtube. great stuff :-)

I'm building a fixed gravel bike at the min, wondering what the vibe is with wide mtb bars? I like the ones with almost no rise, but how wide?? Any recomendations?

BB threads a lovely shade of blue too..

appologies, ive edited the colleciotn location (moorgate is not an option currently as my office is closed).

ah no thanks!

ah bum. i thought paul/surly did 120s.

@606 no breaking surfaces init! also ocd

updated list

has anyone ever had a disc tab brazed on to the rear of a steamroller? I've got a disc fork comming but worry my knees will suffer from lack of rear brake. switching to 650b

Just picked up new wheelset from martin - 650b Arkane gravel rim on Bitex/Zenith hubs - fixed rear, disc front. Couldn't be happier, great communication, price, and very helpful through out. Would recommend :-)

Ah nice, love the doors he's been making. I'm not :-)

just catching up with this thread. ace BJ. is your desk Richard Woods? v cool

I'm 6'2" and ride the 59 - it's fine though I find it a bit of a stretch as the top tube is so long. But ok fit otherwise - if I got another surly I would be keen to drop down a size. This may be more a reflection of my flexibility and proportions though!

Interesting. Thanks for the info - so what in theory might that do to the handling?

So I'm on a steamroller disc brake quest and have found a fork that looks pretty good. OK price and has all the gubbins I want - but the specs are a little different to the stock SS fork. Am I right in thinking this is going to make the trail slacker? And also too much slacker?

Axel to crown
New fork - 398 mm
SS - 375 mm

Offset/rake
New fork - 50mm
SS - 38mm

He actually doesnt suggest anything specific - just at XT day. I've been skipping, doing HIIT style workouts - burpess, squats, plo squats, push ups, planking etc. Sadly I dont have access to a bike currently..

I just find that my legs are a bit knackered the next day so struggling to then do the programmed runs. But perhaps this will just get easier in time.

I've started a Ben Parkes Marathon training plan but am finding the XT days a little tough. I'm finding it tough to run after working out, possibly doing too much leg stuff. Does anyone have any good links to XT workouts that are good for runners but a little bit easier on the legs?