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Definitely needs a spacer on the drive side.

1 spacer on the drive side to take up the space of a chain guide.

Someone borrowed my tool and didn't return it, I actually know where he works so might pay him another visit...

That plastic spacer is only required for the XX2055mm chainline cranksets.

You are Lynchman, ICM5P!

Mate, get a proper user name please.

I concur with +Velocio lucky indeed, could have easily gone awry...

You taking bets?!?!?!

Reported... ;)

Slack chain? Nah... ;)

There's more questionable matters on that bike, chain slap is the least concern.

Both 801 and 501 will fit, 801 will need the plastic TL FC25 tool which will fit any regular HTII BB tool, basically a step down washer.

Surly says Chainring Clearance 24/36/48t so you should be able to clear quite a bit more than 36T.

Nothing beats actually trying one on though.

What's currently on there?

Photo of full biek?

Yup, yes they would.

Would they work if I threw on a larger chainring? My brain is melting.

There are other funny variations of it, do not go for anything XX20 which is the ones for 148 rear.

Crankset 165mm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135449341938

Chainring up to 46T https://alugear.com/chainrings-1x/231-round-for-shimano-dm-12sp-gravel.html

Hive mind, time to write to our MPs and/or councillors?

One of those 1 click type of letter spam

With prefilled editable text?

No idea how to set it up though!

Huh? You trolling right?

165mm? Doesn't exist

40T? Doesn't exist

1x? Doesn't exist

etc

Just get the Shimano regular 68/73 crankset.

142 and 135 is pretty much the same thing, you have the option for thru axle with the former but not the latter.

Nice! Not a fan of the Telegraph but hey ho, it's a start innit.

I see where your point but I've always got on when the wheels are off.

Always with a full rideable bike though but once when I had a double puncture in Dalston and had to get back to Clapham Common, Victoria to Stockwell and then to Clapham Common, wheels off strapped onto my bag, frame and all other bits on my hand, got through fine.

You could take the wheels off, hold it on one hand and frame on the other and you'll be allowed in.

It is actually legit per TFL, just did it on Sunday, wheels on my bag, frame on the left, Brompton on the right, made it from Turnpike Lane to London Bridge!

Thanks @aggi!

Brompton bikes, PM for deets, no police... ;)

Which Surly is this? 135, 148 or boost?

Shimano's own offering only goes up to 38T but you should be able to get aftermarket stuff in =>40.

Why not go for XT or SLX direct mount?

Some deals to be had depending on arm length and chainring size.

Brader, MTB cranks on a 120 spaced rear frame, you know better what I'm talking about... tsk tsk tsk...

Depends on the chainline you'll like to achieve, each spacer is 2.5mm.

Depends on your BB shell 68/73 and if you run a chain guide, hence it's 1x drive side and 2x non drive.

E.g. if its 73 with a chain guide, you'll run no spacers.

Like a chainwhip.

Not yet... ;)