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Are the Velo Orange Porteur bars 23.8mm road sized or 22.2mm mountain-bike- sized?

Is the pearl stem the one that's horizontal when fitted, or the one that drops the bars a few degrees?

Viola, sorry to have offended with 'fuck'. 'Instore' is a bollocks word that seems to have only existed in the general sales speak since around the same time as 'online', also a hateful construct in my mind. I stand by my observation, albeit not worth a fig in your opinion.

Good luck with your cheaper saddles you lot. I still think LBS are worth supporting over internet shops and the corporates, but the difference between this price and rrp is irresistible to most. What shocks me is that a B17 used to cost £30 about six years ago, now they're £70!

No offence taken, Skully, but thank you for the message.

As far as using a Brooks saddle without mudguards is concerned, an old trick is to turn the saddle upside down and apply neatsfoot oil fairly liberally (don't use it on the top of the saddle - only underneath).This is the stuff they use on horse-riding saddles. Leave it overnight and wipe off any excess. It softens the leather very quickly and waterproofs the underside.

Brooks don't advise it because it fills up the 'grain' of the leather and doesn't allow the leather to breathe from underneath. Without mudguards, however, it works like underseal on a car. A re-coat at the start of each winter is all you need.

I agree that swearing isn't quaint, but with all due respect, that's bollocks.

It doesn't represent a decline in standards at all. Swearing has a great history in the English language, from ancient Anglo-Saxon traditions and those of the Middle Ages, through Shakespeare, the Enlightenment and the Victorians, to the Lady Chatterley trial and all the way through to the Sex Pistols. Swearing runs through the history of the English language like the letters in a stick of a rock. And to risk overextending the similie, if you cut that stick of rock it would say 'FUCK' inside it.

If you're interested I highly recommend Geoffrey Hughes' Swearing: A Social History of Foul Language, Oaths and Profanity in English as a primer.

Swearing, when used with wit and irony (i.e. "wit" in its traditional sense), can be enormously entertaining. What I objected to was being accused of using "management speak", an observation that wasn't worth a turd! (I think I got that example from Geoffrey Hughes, last time I looked at that excellent book.)

Skully is a nice person...the occasional obscenity [how quaint] is niether here or there.....i have known people including cyclists who have never sworn in their life but are throughly unpleasant and miserable....but should never generalise.....if i am cut up by a car...i can assure you i am profoundly obscene, aggressive and somewhat offensive...but i can assure you that i am a lovely chap....ask skully!

When i checked earlier on Halfords site.....the closest B17 to me [and i am in Cambridge]....is in Crawley near Gatwick in Sussex.

Obscenities are not "quaint"; it represents a decline in standards, both of conduct and of language. Defending the indefensible is a futile gesture, however chivalrous your intentions may be.

Thanks, Taba. Very useful.

'in-store' and 'instore'

Where the fuck did this word even come from? Fucking management speak.

The words "online" and "in-store" are standard English usage. For a fuller explanation of the need for a hyphen in the latter, you will need to consult a book on English grammar.

I can't see that there's any need for anger and obscenities. I've always believed that cyclists are a nice bunch of people.

Does Evans match the price online or in-store, or both?

The History Boys
Staring James Corden and Richard Griffiths
When I saw this I thought it was going to be a remake of the History Boys where Robin Williams inspires a group of young boys to learn history outside of class and they form a small gang that meet in the hollowed out trunk of an oak tree. I remember they exchange stories, smoke pipes and talk about girls, but mainly they just love history and love their teacher.
This wasn't like that at all and I gave up after 20 mins.

You are thinking of 'Dead Poet's Society', in which Robin Williams plays Dr Keating, an English teacher, who inspires the boys to live life to the full. 'The History Boys' is much better. This reworking of Alan Bennett's play is a superb film, and makes serious observations about the state of education and politics. Hector, the English teacher, is recognizable as the hero some of us remember from our own schooling. He is a dinosaur who couldn't adapt to the new environment, the brave new world of 'spin'. Talk to any teacher or lecturer and they'll tell you why this film is good. You do need to watch it for longer than 20 minutes, though. Try watching the whole thing. You might like it.

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You're also likely to get more money if you didn't make an account, do the 3 obligatory posts here and there, and promptly attempt to offload all your shit.

Both unnecessary and impenetrable. What does it mean, "didn't make an account"? What are "3 obligatory posts"?

Which generation is this?

When you say it 'collapses down', you mean the sections unslot? Presumably each straight section contains a half-slot?

What material is it made of? (Yes, I know it's wood, but is it mdf or plyboard?)

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I can answer my own question: ETRTO 590mm wheel and tyre. (650A?) No good to me, I'm afraid.

Can you list what's still left?

Interested in no.3 wheel. Is it a 559 rim on 135mm rear hub? Does it have a freehub or freewheel threads?
Is the white wall tyre 559 to fit it?
What mudguards are left?

Price cut.
I'll be putting this stuff on eBay tomorrow if no one here wants it.

This have them queuing up in the aisles on ebay, especially that milk bottle. Is it bauhaus or woofwoof?

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Whereabouts are you?

Which model truing stand is this? Where are you located?

Gladstone? Disraeli? Lloyd-George? Attlee? Churchill? Blair? Cameron?

Post Mortem? Pretty Mundane? Possibly!

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Where are you for collection?

Where are you? Or does it include postage?

I'd be interested in the front, if realistically priced.