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Found some minutes of a public meeting with Dulwich Estates back in Jan:
Herne Hill Velodrome:
- Why is the Estate doing such a bad job of communicating anything at all about its plans for the Herne Hill Velodrome when such a level of secrecy is not necessary to protect its commercial negotiating position?
- Is the Estate still pursuing development proposals on the site and why?
- Why has the Estate refused to grant a sufficiently long lease to the Velo Club de Londres to enable them to invest properly in facilities for the velodrome by unlocking the public funding for cycling that is available.
- Is the Estate not aware of the pent up demand for cycling activities at the Velodrome, including several requests from its beneficiaries, which VCdL is unable to satisfy because of the uncertainty of its future at the site?
DE: Long difficult problem. Was leased by Southwark for 42 years who have left site and buildings in poor condition – discussion over dilapidations have stalled. Three extensions of of a one year lease have been granted to British Cycling, DE’s aim is to secure the long term future of the site. Ideally wants a building which will provide facilities for cyclists plus other sport/leisure facilities. Difficult to find development partner in the current market. On advice from traffic consultant, DE informed that two access are required, not the one as at present, in order to get a planning consent for any new building. Southwark still lease a small piece of land required for a second access and are not prepared to release it at a reasonable price. This lease does not expire until 2022. The DE has tried to use dilapidations claim as a lever but no effect as different departments of the Council deal with each aspect. Southwark Council’s Building at Risk Officer had made an application to English Heritage to have grandstand listed which will further delay things and could prevent any development. Site is designated Metropolitan Open Land – very little can be built on it.
Floor: VCdL did not require another access, considered this a red herring. Why not consider giving longer lease so that investment worthwhile? VCdL have good proposals but British Cycling cannot raise money for renovation because they cannot get a lease longer than 1 year. Preliminary suggestions had been sent to DE but no reply, why? Have they been considered? DE should try harder to reach a solution so that the facility can be improved and enjoyed.
DE: Did not consider the initial scheme from VCdL a formal proposal – three options suggested. Unaware that VCdL has obtained any planning advice for proposals and hence cannot say second access will not be required.
http://www.dulwichsociety.com/2009-winter/487-dulwich-estate-meeting
- Why is the Estate doing such a bad job of communicating anything at all about its plans for the Herne Hill Velodrome when such a level of secrecy is not necessary to protect its commercial negotiating position?
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I've been riding in London for about 16 years and had a the usual amount of verbal which I usually respond to with the finger or a very loud fuck off (I know it's childish but I just can't help it). A few years ago a car passed me in Camberwell and some guy leaned out of the back window and smacked my arse. Then to add insult to injury then then shouted 'wahay' in a I'm so fucking cool way. But this being Camberwell I cycled after them and caught up with them at the traffic lights in Denmark hill and scratched the side of the car with my cleats. Again - knee jerk reaction as I was so furious. Astonishingly enough they then apologised.
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This is the best kept secret in London. Awesome carnival. Went last year and was blown away. The kids loved it. 7:15 till about 9:30 and fireworks over the Thames after. Along the Embankment - from Charing Cross.
http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/whatson/thames-festival-night-carnival-article-4770.html
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I bought these mavic wheels on ultegra hubs on ebay described as 'good condition' for £82 inc. postage. The back one however has a dent in the rim which I'm very wary of riding on. The seller reckons it's not a misdescription but I think this is more than just cosmetic. Would others be happy to ride them? It's a shame as otherwise they are just lovely.
The ebay photo
![](http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B1Lfe+g!Wk~$(KGrHqYOKiQEw1umDNuBBMdZstuNkg~~_12.JPG)
My photos
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darkpoint - always good to go the longer way to work; more time on the bike, less in the office... Enjoyable ride in - thanks for the company.