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I presume that some Gazelles came out of the factory custom made to customers specifications with Italian threaded bottom bracket shells. Does anyone know how reasonable it is to assume that a normal Gazelle came out of the factory with an English threaded BB shell?

I think that never a new frame left the Gazelle factory with italian threading.
Only possibility is that someone stripped the BC treads accidentally and that the original BB threading was chased with italian thread cutting tools.

Even for a "dream bike", Gazelle wouldn't make a frame with italian threads. It would just be a silly request, not making any sense.

Too bad that the D/T decals are upside down

Well most of these are made in Ukraine, but when they were made it was Soviet Union.

I know, so please change the title of the thread from RUSSIAN to e.g. FORMER SOVIET

How about Ukrainian bikes?

German Textima, isn't it?

Scorch' old Miyata?

do you know if the blue is the original colour ?

Yes, original paint style & colours:
white 67 with baikal blue 68

About the questions frame number and year of manufacture: maybe it has been produced in 86, but resprayed later.
Or the whole frame has been produced later.
Gazelle frame numbers (and lists) are not 100% reliable.
The spoiler bracket has Cinelli logo, later ones had a Gazelle cast logo.
At least the BB shell is an early version Cinelli spoiler.

Rondje IJsselmeer? Really don't know why people want to do that.
There are so many other and better routes...

Which is?

I would say the areas with less buildings, less traffic, less industry.
Drenthe, Overijssel, Gelderland, Brabant, Limburg, some quiet parts of Utrecht.

Nice tour, Hats, but for a cyclist you've missed the best parts of The Netherlands.

Strange that these crank arms are offered as Pista, when BCD is 135mm.
Okay, they can be used as track cranks without any problem (maybe you have to file the tabs a bit), but 135mm can only be Strada.
When it is marked "Pista", BCD should be 144 or 151 mm.

A sexy machine with all panto parts.....This weekend I picked up something special in Ulestraten near Maastricht (i planned to go to a retroride in the neighbourhood so i picked this one up). I was planning to use this bike for a super record conversion as a donor bike for my Nuovo Record Presto.

Wouter, you lucky bastard.

That is a nice bike!

I thought I bought a Chinetti online (marktplaats). But when I got it today, I noticed there was Gazelle and number 3192030 on the bb. So a 1977?

Could anybody tell me if it is a real track bike, or a transformed one because of the rear brake bridge. Poor paint and chinetti is a sticker

Definately not a track frame (bridges, BB shell, bottle holder bosses).
This is a converted A, maybe an early AB.
Track frames from Gazelle always have cast BB-shells.
Nobody is so foolish to replace that.

nice one, thought I'd seen something about it
cheers

Pelten shade => Marktplaats, Djulia, Den Haag

http://www.marktplaats.nl/verkopers/12904737.html

In those days, Union was also the distributor of Colnago.
I've never heard that Union frames were produced by Colnago.

I think if IF is a genuine Gazelle, it should be pre 1970.
Auction ended btw.

That frame number gives at least a bit confidence/trust that it's a Gazelle.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAZELLE-track-FRAME-only-fixed-gear-on-Reynolds-531-/251336668050?clk_rvr_id=521364745936http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=251336668050&mpt=8712398

Dutch Cheese, what are your thoughts on this one posted above? I haven't seen others with the falling tube?

See above.
It's posible that it's a very old Gazelle. I don't know these frames so well.
Or another frame with a Gazelle head badge.
So bad, when people repaint such a nice frame, because you loose all information about it.

Also the rear dropout and the finishing of the chain stays look a bit strange.
In combination with the falling top tube: maybe an old road frame with new, track dropouts?

Don't know if it is original paint, but it's very well possible.
In close-up you can se that it's not new.
But I'm thinking about a respray in future with the same colours and repro decals.

Thanks, Ruud!

Stem = Super Light
Post = Extra Super Light
Bars = Road Custom (couldn't find a World Custom, Super Light or Royal in my size, for reasonable money, in time. May be changed in future).
Also pedals are "just" new MKS Sylvan Pista with MKS clips, but fully in line with what bike manufacturers used to do 35 years ago with their Dura Ace equipped bikes.

http://progettopistavintage.blogspot.nl/2013/09/superia-track-ready.html

New kid on the block.
Superia Ishiwata 022, Dura Ace 10 mm pitch, Sakae Ringyo
59 cm c-t

Certainly no Gazelle front fork.
But it absolutely looks like a 753 Gazelle frame.
In 1984, Gazelle didn't supply frames to Paragon RT yet.
But again, frame numbers are not that reliable.

Paragon had 2 'cross aces: Chris Young and David Baker.
This may be an ex-David Baker frame.

That needs some welding, otherwise it will break pretty soon.

A couple of weeks ago I got a pair of 700C aluminium clincher rims from UK to NL.
I thought that the GBP 33.- I paid was quite a lot (Parcel Force).
A lot more than the NOS rims costed (GBP 21.-).
I think that posting a pair of wheels is not a lot more expensive than a pair of rims.

I may help you out with the brakes, Neil, if you promise to swap the saddle (and maybe the seat post), too! ;-)

Did you ever look out for a Bassano Vuelta saddle?
One of the best saddles my bum ever met and (match the frame tubing), Reynolds 531 rails.
There must also be a couple of hundreds, if not thousands, with Gazelle name or logo on the back. Just a tip.