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16 hours (two camera and french commentary) of this Geneva countryside tournament here:
Day 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY18OjgAY24

Day2 (with timestamp of every game) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqOMgOcW_II&app=desktop

Birds Vs Nichons: Final of countryside coming soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqOMgOcW_II&app=desktop

Some issues with podium: challonge here:
http://challonge.com/fr/Doublelim12

Finals happening, dope games!

poster by Tomas M.

podium link:
https://www.podiumbikepolo.com/Genevacountryside2015

Streaming of this Geneva week end tournament here: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenèveVéloPoloGVPTV
Some good teams to fallow:

• WEGADRIVE (q, tomas, Will)
  
• NICHONS (gas, quent, val)
  
• THE BIRDS (morgan, dodi, lefty phil)
  
• Les bidons veulent le guidon (Silvio, Cal, Felix)
  
• TBA (Punch, Alex Capitaine, Dani)
  
• DYONISOS (Rthouin, JThouin, Ben)
  
• Super Mario Bro (Mario, Martin, Jojo)
  
• Stars (Théo, Quentin C, Nico)
  
• Peinture (Elena, Attila, Thomas)
  
• TARTE TATIN! (Brice, Tijs, Mass)
  
• System D (Dorian, Michel, Nath)
  
• GVP T 2 (Patou, David, Manu)
  

Clearly tristan's move is out of any sport logic to become pure art. You can get back to -2 and put the hell of a tired team who let Morgan on court almost the whole game but you prefere to say fuck it, flat pedal mean free feet, free feet mean free kick, let's kick it.

All semi and finals were cools game to watch. West Coast leading + 9 against Normandy at something around 9 minutes from the end and finishing only at +1 by woods masterpiece strategy and team mental coaching was dope to watch.

Flat pedal final first half:

https://vimeo.com/126864937

And gif teaser of the second period:

EHPA will push for testing the obstruction rule in next tournaments around, as they can try it on a intersting scale if they try it in every small leagues around Europe.

I definitely want to try a game where i'm not thinking first "where should i go to be in the path of the guy who try to steal the ball from my teamate". Maybe it will suck because of our sport specs, maybe not.

First half of the final flat pedal tournament game on vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/126864937

Daniele get the "referees staff" mvp distinction but Gitti from Berlin get the MVP title.
Daniele played fucking well and smart, and for the refs who worked in the afternoon (Manuel, Me, Vincent) she was really in the top 3.4 players there.

Awesome tournament, awesome mood. I love the fact that that's a one court tournament, it make it so easy to run smoothly.

Hell's Belles 2014 poster is out.

Luca!
Someone Gif 15:48!!

Im back on vimeo, new computer, new internet connection, ready to shoot some games again (and make friends shoot mine).
I have posted last league Alpine Final and some other Game last week, and already posted two games from the last Swiss champs (last week end).
League Alpine Semi final:
https://vimeo.com/107072290

SHBPC swiss round game:
https://vimeo.com/107444566

We have soon reached the number of needed referees for WHBPC 2014 but we are still looking for Officials / Assisstant ref and goal ref :
http://whbpc2014.montpellierbikepolo.fr/#refereeing
PLEASE enter the keyword "goal ref " or "official" in the motivation box because the "job" box is not working properly.

Registration Opening tonigt at 20H (Paris Time) For Europe. 12h For Us.

If you go down there, and ref 1/4 of the game, so around 120 games, you can earn 360€.. .wich pay you 1/3 of the plane ticket... wich is not enough.

A solution for the future can be to pay every ref at every tournament around, and like that you could go to Europe and travel to London for the Open, Bordeaux, Montepellier, Barcelona, and get paid every time. Let's dream a bit.

Fill this form if you want to be a ref at WHBPC 2014:
http://whbpc2014.montpellierbikepolo.fr/#volunteers

They plan to pay main ref 3 euros per game and to offer them free housing.

The current ruleset is very good and has made the game more enjoyable to play and watch. Feedack from the euros: The biggest problem is players not knowing the rules and poor reffing, not the rules themselves.

When players don't understand (or haven't read) the rules, the game becomes very stop/start, especially in a competitive environment like the Euros. When ref isn't up to the job the game becomes ugly. On the final day in the latter stages of the double elim - when teams understood the rules and knew that the ref will blow the wistle - games became very clean and amazing to watch, spectators were applauding moves and plays.

Problems
Players:
1) Several players didn't know that off ball checking is a penalty.
2) Subsequently players didn't know that incidental contact on a screen is OK. This lead to confusion.
3) Goal mouth clusterfuck. Lots of dubious 'incidental' body-body and bike-bike contact. This happened far too often.

Reffing:
1) Refs with a poor understanding of the rules. (one or two)
2) Refs not enforcing the rules. (more common)

There is a simple solution for both of these. Have a head ref, have a refs briefing and have the head ref brief the players about penalty rules before the start of the tournament/for each group.

I would also like to see some official NAH demonstration videos about the contact rules. Clear, short clips about what is legal and what should be called.

Really good summary of the issues.
The first clip from Mr.Do from NAHBPC with Brian check who seems to be under Flagrance and Charging fouls. Not sure that everybody knows that around. So that's a good thing to share it.

Promo NAHBPC 2014 on Vimeo

Right now i asked Do to make clip of situations where some fouls were or should be called in the next games he gonna publish. So we can help reffing by watching his videos and pointing some intersting situations. If you find some in games he posted, just let me know and i will ask him to make a short clip of it.

For Euros rep as ref, as far as I know, Dany, Benji, Vincent, Alejandro and Johana Helped by reffing at euros. Personnally i can't play and ref so i try to work prior and after tournaments.
For sure it would be really helpful that Euros reps knows rules and can be able to ref games.
I would say that every community should be able to provide one ref or two.

Share this and fill this form for reffin' at WHBPC 14:

http://whbpc2014.montpellierbikepolo.fr/#refereeing

Still hard to find some good ref who don't play in the event, as always. At euros this year lot of refs (But Benji) were players involved in good teams in the tournament. Work at the end was not really recognise (no cheering for Warin...) Montpelier is trying to get things better, offering refs (maybe some money and) good hosting and material facilites.

Anyway, let's continue to share critics and opinions to make things going forward:
https://leagueofbikepolo.com/forum/rules/2014/05/14/nah-v-43-feedback
https://leagueofbikepolo.com/forum/general/2014/07/03/lessons-from-ehbpc
http://www.lfgss.com/thread13115-51.html

Dont you news a chain tensioner or a derailleur to ride it?

Oh another point about this year, Balls were too soft too quickly, where the fuck are the fixcraft over hot shit... Plus you lost possession when asking for a new ball, wich push playing to continue to play with some bubble gum sticky stuff.

I made a post on LOBP about some weird situations during EHBPC and the advantages calls:
https://leagueofbikepolo.com/forum/rules/2014/07/07/weird-delayed-penalties-situation-nah-ruleset-43

1)
Classical move from the ref: being too quick on the wistle:
Team A have the Ball, Team B make a foul that the ref see but Team A still get the ball in a good position. Ref call the foul and stop the game, breaking the advantage.
-In this situation, almost every time, Team A complain because they lost the advantage. Ref apologies and only reset the game. During this time, Team B, can get back in a good defensive position, making Team A goes from a situation who should have been a advantage to a shitty situation where Team is ready to defend.
-Answer:
These days it seems normal that ref cancel the advantage and only apologies...
BUT
Why not giving back the advantage to Team A, even if the ref had stop the game?
This way Team A don't get completly fuck by ref mistake. In the actual situation, they lost their advantage and Team B get the time to reset in a good position, with my solution, they can at least get the advantage, even if Team B had time to get back in good position.
When Benji from Utopists was reffing our game against Instinct in Padova he did such a thing. After a mallet under the wheel he blows the wistle, and we still get the advantage. Regarding the foul and the situation, it seems it was a good choice.
2)
What happen if the ball goes out during an advantage situation? Should we care of who put the ball out if it was not on purpose?
We get penalized during a game in wich a player, Doddi, was ball handling like pro during minutes. So he get an advantage situation wich lasted long, and when we finally success to touch the ball, it goes out of bounds. As it was one of us who push the ball out, they kept the ball again and still get the advantage, this shit lasted for ever. Is that logical or should we say an advantage situation is broken when the ball goes out?
3)
What should do a player to stop the advantage, only touching the ball with the end of is mallet or really get a small control of it?
If we say that just touching or shooting the ball away is not enough, does that mean that a player can score during an advantage for the other team by shooting from is own side? It seems that in Ice hockey this can be true.
According to the ruleset, a possession for the last player who touched the ball, so is that the same when an advantage situation occcurs? does a small touch count as possesion?
Alternative question: If a touch by the end is a control, what happens if you touch it while highsticking. This happens in Padova EHBPC 2014. A team get the advantage, tried to score, the ball after the shot deflected high in the air on some bike, the keeper try to control it way above his own head and touched it. The ref blow the wistle for stopping the game, thinking that this foul and the lost of the ball stopped the advantage. Right after the blow the ball went straight to nets, making the high stick move a own goal move. As the wistle where blow before, ref didn't counted in. I think he just gave the ball back to the team who had the advantage, making the high sticking counting as a possession... This was messy as shit to deal with.
4)
When a player make a foul during an advantage for the other team, the ruleset say that the team should take 30 sec if I get it right. Isn't that too much for some really small fouls?

Agree that ref should get more reward. I went two years in a row to ref french qualiflyers in Lyon, and both year they paid me the round trip, 60 euros. I feel like at least im not loosing money doing it.
This year was way more hard to ref with the new rule, and i made more mistakes. After two or three mistakes and all the shit talk players gave me, i feel like a bit more than the ticket train would have be cool, because you don't want to get scream at for free for two days.

In Padova Reffing was really unequal. Some ref knows the rules but didin't know how to call it, or didn't get the confidence to make calls. Some other had enough confidence but don'^t seems to understand basics. An italian Ref call Manu for a "sandwich" foul, as manu was stuck between Robert and Shadowman during our game against power ranger....
Finals for me was the best reffing I see so far, and some other ref did great job, wich was a huge step up when you look back at a lot of major envent. Some players seems to don't understand the rule at all. Or some other understood it but told me that as ref didn'd call it they continue to play the old school way...

About the crease I agree that we should try and that this could be a good option. My only concern is that 2013-14 ruleset get some new rules that it took some time to get play with, so i feel that adding a new one and make it official for next year can be too much.
But if this rule is a real need and easy to enforce, it would work. We just have to find how to write it... Is the "static" players defifintion into the crease a good one. Should we just say as an attackant, you can't goes in but you can go trought if you don't disturb the goalie (as in Ice hockey). If you are on defense, what if you stop a ball as a double goalie? Ball turnover? I think we could also imagine to say that if players are two in the crease, if your shot hit the first goalie (the one closeset to nets) ref can allow the goal etc... We have to find this.

About mallet on mallet... Just call more hacking as it was done this week end. For me the way we hook and play these days is fine. I don't really see how to get the ball on really good ball handler without a bit of hooking.