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Oh @Skülly, well remembered! I am well and now living in Berlin.

I miss the LFGSS bike tours from years ago!

So it was a little over 4 years since I have launched the app and I've received a steady stream of hub and rim submissions over the years thanks to the users of the app.

The page was starting to look a little dated and I was getting a little embarrassed of it so ... I've redesigned the thing: http://lenni.info/edd/

Not only does it no longer look hideous but I've also cleaned up the codebase enormously. It's amazing what you learn in a few years of making software.

I have a favour to ask of you: If you notice a problem when using the app, would you be able to send me feedback either here, on the comment boxes on the site or email to leonard.ehrenfried@gmail.com?

Thanks a lot!

Hi jetski,

(I'm Lenni, you send me an email today). I think adoubletap is correct. You should measure from the the end of the spoke until the "elbow", basically where the spoke starts to bend or put another way where the hole in the hub starts.

In your case I would go with the spokes you have.

You're right in the middle, but yes 280 is fine.

The on one shop says front and rear have the same measurements: http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HUDC32F/dia-compe-gran-compe-front-hub

Obviously you'd have to take their word for it. Doesn't sound unreasonable though.

Clicks and creaks checklist

You're right, plenty of bikes around but I already have 3 nice ones.

I think I would give it a shot, but I don't really have bike I wanna trash.

Another exLondoner in Berlin here. Lemme know if you guys are going for a drink or wanna go riding.

What Tommy said. Old school dutch bikes have them made from pieces of elastic/string.

Are you doing an event, Winston?

How did you get past the nursery?

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What hubs did you use? I built a wheel with Goldtec hubs and DP18s and the length was just right.

I emailed Damon Rinard, the author of the original spreadsheet, and asked about the thing in brackets. He emailed me the following:

For wheel building, there are two important (and often confused) rim diameters: ERD, effecive rim diameter, and NSD, nipple seat diameter.

ERD is the diameter through the ends of ideal-length spokes. It's measured on the theoretical spoke end, not on the rim.

NSD, nipple seat diameter, is the diameter of the circle through all the nipple seats. It's measured on the rim.

Typically, with normal nipples the spoke extends radially outward a little bit beyond the nipple seat, and into the spoke head.

Spocalc calcualtes spoke length and wants the diameter of the ends of ideal spokes, so NSD isn't the dimension spocalc uses.

The comment in the database means I've added 3 mm to Mavic's nipple seat diameter to approximate typical (DTSwiss 14 mm) nipples. So for that rim there might be some adjustment needed if using other nipples.

hope this helps,

Damon Rinard

I still wonder though why he added the 3mm to some but not all rims though.

There are over thousand hubs in the database, most of which are from Damon Rinards original spreadsheet. I honestly can't tell you if it is the hub you are looking at, although on first glance it sounds about right.

Maybe someone else can verify these measurements for the picture hub:

Campagnolo C-Record low flange, rear
Right flange ø: 44.5
Left flange ø: 44.5
Centre to right flange: 21
Centre to left flange: 36
Spoke hole ø: 2.3

Ripping into Hayward gives the appearance of 'doing something about it' and is much easier than proper legislation and regulation. Everybody loves seeing some rich guy getting yelled at.

Quick one, which cogs fit the Goldtec thread?
I know already Miche and EAI don't.

I have a Dura Ace on mine.

I did some portraits of my pals for a project last year here:

http://cargocollective.com/albieclark#10899/Class-of-2009

(I am, to my shame, #3, that's why I am behind the camera most of the time)

I'm sure they wouldn't mind being immortalized. Or laughed at.*

*Image credit would be nice.

May I ask what those glasses are you're wearing?

Ooh, I have the perfect picture!

This isn't the Pictures of Rapists thread.

Thanks. They also ask which length: http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/items.asp?CategoryID=150&Name=M6+Screws

I suppose I will have to take the good one out and measure tonight. Or does anybody know at the top of their head?

Right I'm about to buy stuff from BETD's website and also need rear allen bolts for my Goldtecs. Which size do I need?

http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/result.asp?CategoryID=376&Name=Fasteners

They have M5, M6 & M8.

Tom, aren't you suppossed to be a literary agent, the kind of person people turn to when they need help with words?

Bikemap.net?

That's the one!

I'm looking for this great bike mapping service but can't find the address. It's very much like bikely but a lot slicker and easier to use. Argh! It is really annoying me.

The URL was something like bikemaps.net. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Geddit?

Dibs on the washing up brush.