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I've not finished it yet, but the truly awfully titled "How to win the premier league" could worth a go if you've got any interest in the data side of things (@Chalfie may be the only one).

I've converted mine into a managed account for now. It's slightly more expensive than the previous version but much cheaper than an unmanaged one at the new cost. Still hoping someone identifies the magic S&S ISA bullet for me to move money into and forget about!

Cheers. I'll have a look. Or just dump my sad chunk into a 5% cash ISA and wait until next year to worry about it.

It would be easy to go full Godwin's law here. Instead I'll just say maybe think this through a bit more. Laws are not moral principles but social constructions.

Speaking of elsewhere... Where is elsewhere? I want something I can put money into and forget? Maybe S&S isn't for me.

I also have limited sympathy for people that get caught breaking laws that some fairly basic research would have alerted them to.

So you've limited sympathy for people who break laws in all instances?

32k - lol! I've got about 2k in mine and add £100 a month. Was supposed to be just another retirement pile to grow slowly over the next couple decades, so having to fuck around with it is a bit annoying.

Lol - we both got the same email it seems!

Guys. I'm dumb. I have a S&S ISA with Vanguard. Every month I invest a bit of money into one of their "Ready-made portfolios" (LifeStrategy 60%). I chose this fund, but this fund is obviously managed by Vanguard. Do I have a (very unimaginatively managed) self-managed S&S ISA or a managed S&S ISA?

Ah, completely misunderstood what you meant by "normal price." Yeah, club level on TX is easily over £100 for category C games.

Normal price is around £4k

For a normal seat?! Not even close. Maybe at Fulham.

I suspect the Monaco fans will be good fun. Heard a bunch of them on their way up from kings cross earlier. The Emirates will likely be bumping as well, despite what the old men above say. Although if you're in corporate seats you'll be insulated from it.

While you're obviously not wrong, I'm not sure what your point is. It certainly couldn't be that we should give up on looking at, studying, thinking about, and discussing these things?

Compass released polling and a report a few days ago on Labour's future in the current electoral climate. Guardian overview here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/08/labour-big-majority-is-fragile-and-it-has-weak-mandate-for-change-says-report

Tl;dr: if Labour wants to be the centrist party of the UK we're fucked. The appetite for progressive politics means they'll continue to lose votes from the left and fail to secure votes on the right.

You note this, but it needs to be emphasised that a lot of these aren't actually done, there's no guarantee they will be done, and we have no idea what the final bill/laws will be. I hope they get done (along with many of their other promises).

He did manage to shit on the civil service yesterday, so there's something concrete.

In any case, when is it fair to start assessing Starmer's government? We've all got a lot riding on him not fucking this up.

You'll never sing that

What's the point of being ruthless if you're doing fuck all with your power other than being ruthless?

I'm getting increasingly worried about Labour's ability to achieve anything. They seem stuck in some sort of electioneering holding pattern, terrified to do anything that may (to mix metaphors) rock the boat. Unless that is their aim.

It's performative governing.

But on the bright side the look great while doing it.

I'm not so sure. One way to try and convince people that the free market would be better is to remind them constantly that they have no choice.

Yeah, the information is already available if you want it. Which makes the idea of creating electronic screens in train stations all the more baffling. What will that achieve other than agro?

This, and the live displays showing how shit train companies are in all train stations are really going to make life more pleasant for the poor fuckers working front of line in essential services.

Absolutely. My point is that the PGMOL is not without blame here. They're a closed shop of white dudes who seem to love being in the spotlight, have a history of coming out after the fact to laugh about their bad calls with their ex-player mates, and are on the record saying they're looking out for each other when it comes to VAR. These people are not going to be held in any reverential way.

Nothing will come of this, but will people consider how fucking awful if is being a ref?

The PGMOL does themselves zero favours on this front, and the media mobilisation to repeat this statement ("being a ref is awful, poor them" - like in the Ronay article you reference) ignores that there are real problems that should be addressed (how on earth is Oliver getting £20k from the owners of city? That's not going to help the chorus of "the refs are crooked" brigade).

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I think the question is about community not capitalism. Do you want to be part of a community that supports/normalises Twitter or not? We get to decide, surely (by we I mean DK, but...).

It's like if someone comes to the pub and tries to prove their boring fucking argument with the daily mail.