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Rival AXS 40t - brand new, never used or fitted

Force AXS 40t and 46t - both light use, good condition.

£35 each including postage.

Last call on this before eBay. Final price drop to £1500.

Bump and a slight price drop for the midweek crowd

I'm 177cm, average proportions, saddle height is ~72cm iirc (though can check easily if needed).

Per the Mason website I should be on a 54, but I found that a touch too high at the front end and I prefer the look of having a bit more post showing. I think there's only 2mm difference in reach as well.

I’m selling my Mason Bokeh, size 52, in grey.

The bike is about 2 years old and has done me absolutely sterling service on all surfaces.

The bike has a brand new (ridden twice) SRAM Rival 1x groupset (40, 11-42).

Wheels are handbuilt, by Malcolm Borg of The Cycle Clinic on Bitex hubs. Tyres are brand new Specialized Pathfinder Pro, set up tubeless.

Finishing kit is good quality alloy: Zipp XPLR bars, Prime stem, Cinelli VAI seatpost. The steerer is cut and running a 10mm spacer, but there’s room for ~15mm.

The frame does have a few cosmetic marks associated with normal use – see pics – but is in essentially very good condition. There’s no work at all needed; the groupset, chain, brake pads etc are all brand new, as is the bar tape, as is the bottom bracket.

All in all this would be a really solid, no nonsense, gravel/cx/audax bike for someone (which is exactly what it was for me).

I’m asking £1600 collected from Tring in Hertfordshire. I’m not willing to split I’m afraid.

I’m not keen on posting but might be able to drive for up to an hour to meet a buyer. Tring station is also within easy riding distance of my house so that’s an option as well.

Any questions please ask.

Johnson and the Pro-Brexit wing of the Tories have culled all talent and experience. Whether you agree with their politics or ability of the previous crop, we're talking about a totally different league of incompetence.

This is the key point. From Johnson onwards, the only selection criterion for a cabinet position has been a perceived loyalty, be that to an individual, a policy or an ideology. At least partly as a result, we have a government that has been so palpably lacking in actual competence it has been incredible. It also means that utterly egregious violations of various codes (be they ministerial, moral, or criminal) have been consistently overlooked.

Add in generally cynical, dog-whistle, gammon policies, a bit of bad luck, and we are where we are.

It is very, very hard to believe that a not terribly gifted group of year 9s would make a worse job, much less a labour government. There are absolutely criticisms to make of Starmer and co, but from my perspective (slightly left of centre Dad) they are the only credible offering as matters stand, and a lot would have to change for that to be different, IMO.

oof!!

At the most basic level, because that's what he can charge and still fill his order book, as others have noted (economics 101: an item is worth what someone will pay).

You're also paying for experience, expertise, and (perhaps most significantly) the brand name/vibe/symbolism that goes with it. In the same way as the price of almost any very high end discretionary purchase is much less about cost of production, and much more about the perceived value to the buyer.

As I think I posted earlier in this thread, whether or not that's worth it is wholly subjective.

It's £1433 from south coast velo (official UK HED distributor), with free shipping.

That’s quite good, I’ll give you that :-)

Yeah, pretty much.

I’d have no problem with an Oxford + Eton educated PM if they could actually show some ability and empathy. I’d have no problem with a PM with 2 GCSEs if they were demonstrably good at the job.

The problems come from assumptions (and in the current case, from an old boys network).

If you listen you Angela Rayner on the Rest is Politics, she’s quite eloquent on her background (and the majority of what she said was quite hard to argue with imo) but Rory Stewart also challenged her quite well on the ‘Tory scum’ comments.

No, he left home at 18.

3 of us booked an Air BnB from Friday to Monday. Looks about 40 mins drive away.

I'm not convinced the current enthusiasm for a Monday ride will be as strong come April 21st...

I went to Oxford. My mum was a teacher and my dad (who grew up in a council house) was an engineer at JCB. I was also a teacher. About the only thing I have in common with Boris or Rishi is the university I went to, and being labelled 'a posh twat','tory' or similar on account of that used to irk me. Given I've got a reasonably pronounced Stoke accent, and am moderately to the left politically, it now just makes me smile.

The country will be a better place when we stop judging people on their backgrounds - for good or ill - and reward competency and decency.

I understand RS asks for saddle height, reach from saddle to bars, and saddle to bar drop, and he does the rest. I think if you gave him those (current) details, assuming they're comfy now, with the brief that the fit should have room to go up and back a touch as you get older, he could probably factor that in.

That made me lol.

Terreno mix could be an option.

Shortlist is:

G-One R
Cinturato RC
Pathfinder Pro
Terreno Mix

Will almost certainly change my mind between now and April, however.

I think there will always be a discussion of 'is it worth it?' when anyone mentions buying something this far along the price spectrum. That said, I think it's been done respectfully, and the conversation has been interesting.

Nice setup.

Did you do the 200 last year?

Given the training and travel I'll be doing, I don't mind investing in a pair of tyres that'll still hopefully see me through the summer after the event.

What would folks be thinking as a solid tyre choice for the Dirty Reiver? Obviously it's largely pretty tame terrain, but given the length and remoteness, robustness seems probably the key factor. Pathfinder Pro? Terra Speed? Something as hardy as a Cinturato? For reference I've had a few puncture issues with my Terravails and my current Terreno Wet are (hopefully) way overkill in terms of tread. Thanks.

Yes.

And no :-)

That was the point. It wasn't an exact analogy in terms of how complex something is to build. No-one buys a Rolex or similar because it's functionally superior to a Casio, or because it's better designed.

It was more that the price of this kind of product isn't about how well it functions, but more about emotional, psychological or (I don't think this applies to an RS) social significance. That's why to some people they're massively overpriced, and to others they are excellent value.

I also like that the OP is spending his money on something that is clearly significant to him. Downtube shifters, 80s gruppo, etc. I'm not implying personal questions or drawing inferences but it's not a showy build - S Works, Red, Enve etc. I'm willing to bet even a lot of keen cyclists wouldn't see anything beyond 'retro bike' if they saw it in a cafe. There's something quite cool about that.

Hear hear.

Honestly I couldn't say as I've never ridden one and I'm not likely to.

But it doesn't really matter.

With all items that are that high up the price ladder, you're clearly buying an aesthetic/vibe/symbol/personal dream. It's not really about function at that point. I don't think many of us would seriously argue that an RS, however good it is, would be in any way objectively 'better' at transporting you from A to B at speed and/or in comfort than just about any properly fitted mid-range Giant/Spesh/Trek.

In the same way, I'd never spend £££ on a watch - I just don't 'get' expensive watches, and am perfectly happy with a £30 job - but I totally understand why buying a Rolex might symbolise success or the realisation of a personal dream to someone else. I'm sure an RS bike is no different.

As an aside, RS is one of the fairly small number of guys to have made a solid, long-term career out of framebuilding. Making handmade bicycles for a sustainable, full-time living is (evidently) not an easy thing to do. Whether or not it's marketing or craftsmanship or customer service (and it's likely a combination of all 3), then more power to him, tbh. I think it makes the bike world a more interesting place.

Fairly openly discussed on several US forums. $6500 frameset iirc.

That's a little under £5200 at the current exchange rate. But if you're UK based and having it shipped here, then with freight, duty and VAT, then the general rule is you end up paying the $ price in £.