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Can someone school me on the Look 585/595? I'm thinking about tracking down one of these and getting it custom painted for a 2023 project - they've always struck me as a wonderful example of the old style mixed with modern materials and (apparently) a great ride feel.
- Will either fit a 25mm tyre on a modern wide rim (say, GP5000S on a 20mm ID rim?)
- How annoying is the ISP on the 595?
- Is there much of a difference in ride quality between the 595 and 585?
- Is there anything that I should look out for when buying second hand? Seems like the thrust washers in the headset can be painful to find but other than that seems okay? How about spacers for the 595 ISP?
- How's the internal cable routing on the 595? Would be looking to set up with mechanical group.
- Anything else I should know?
- Will either fit a 25mm tyre on a modern wide rim (say, GP5000S on a 20mm ID rim?)
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Indeed it does:
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My attempt at this game. It's a Repco Vertex Vicenza from 1989, Reynolds 531 tubing and their top frame at the time. This Vicenza model came with Campagnolo and had a funky triple triangle design. It's seen a repaint, and I'd say it's a fairly tasteful one. Went with Campag Chorus 10 speed and a Praxis compact crank.
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Most nicer ones are around the 250g mark, Deda Zero 100, Ritchey WCS, 3T Pro series, etc.
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You sure that's exactly the same setup? The Guerc looks just right.
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Generally when using classic drops, rather than having a flat transition between level and bar, you have a slight drop before the lever - this post just above yours provides a good example of how they're usually set up:
https://www.lfgss.com/comments/14324411/
As @Tijs was saying, you're probably better off with a compact bar, where the transition is flat, but the drops will come around normally rather than being at the funny angles yours are, not to mention they'll be a bit closer on. Best option for a 26mm compact bar is a Deda Piega, modern shape, works great with Campy levers and only costs about £20.
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I would've thought so too. The 2015 Athena and Veloce groupsets used these Shimano compatible shoes as well, so we're stuck in the weird situation where half of Campagnolo's brakes are compatible with Campagnolo brake pads, and the other half with Shimano. Hopefully in the near future that's extended to all groups.
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Potenza calipers (and now Centaur too) use Shimano compatible brake pads rather than Campagnolo ones (finally!), so any Shimano-compatible brake pads will work in those calipers. The brake pads that come with Potenza are definitely very good, but I haven't had experience with the Record ones to compare them to. In any case, I don't think you'd get an improvement in braking performance by switching calipers.
As Scily.Suffolk has pointed out, Kool Stop Salmons and Swissstop BXP pads are popular choices for good brake pads.
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Couple of interesting things I've noticed browsing recently.
Specialized Power copies:
Stem-mounted combo Garmin/GoPro mount:
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It's a Columbus Futura Gravel in the middle of that pic.
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It looks fine to me, I think the key is to get a colourful frameset and then have everything else black.
There's a fine example from Cycling Tips' review of Campagnolo Potenza:
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It appears the Ultegra and up version get flat mount/thru-axle, but 105 version stays post-mount/quick release.
See:
https://www.evanscycles.com/cannondale-caad12-disc-ultegra-2018-road-bike-EV308150
https://www.evanscycles.com/cannondale-caad12-disc-105-2018-road-bike-EV308152 -
This is the one from Spexcel
2017 NEW Top quality water repellent all weather pro team cycling jersey 3/4 length short sleeve windproof bicycle clothes
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That is one very, very nice colour scheme.
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Got some Spexcel 3/4 bib tights, these to be specific:
They're utter shite, don't bother with them. The legs are very tight (even for an M on my 175cm/68kg body) and have little stretch in them, like I've had jeans with more stretch. Took 24 days to arrive from the time of ordering which is par for the course with Aliexpress for me. Pad feels reasonably nice once it's in the right spot but it's wasted due to the cheap, crappy material. Additionally, the legs have no grippers or zip on them so the material rides up behind the knees.
Just to annoy me further, Wiggle now have their dhb Aeron Roubaix 3/4 in stock, in my size and on sale (none of which were the case at the time I bought the Spexcel ones). Shame on me for not waiting.
I can only assume anyone who gave this good feedback on Aliexpress had not tried them on before doing so, or has never worn shorts that don't feel like utter shite. At least if I'd set my $50 AUD on fire it would have had some entertainment value, more than I can say for those tights.
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Well, before seeing this post I thought I'd have a gamble on some of their 3/4 tights. Here's hoping they arrive before the end of (Australian) winter.
Going off the feedback, it seems like the product is fine, but the service is somewhere between poor and atrocious, depending on your luck. My fingers are crossed.
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Knockoffs, definitely.
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Don't know about the essentials, but the road race and prime armour tyres are made by Chaoyang Tyres.
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Looks like something's changed and the code now applies to all items, including already discounted ones. Just picked up the Core bundle for $168 AUD, stupidly cheap for Rapha gear.
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Does it fit oval rails, round rails or both?
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The Fulcrum Racing 5 LG CX would be a decent choice, in the price range and the stickers come off very easily (just peel off). The only difference between the CX and the normal is that the CX has double sealed bearings, the normal 5 LG would do nicely if you can't come across the CX version.
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Love my Mapei Dream. Wondering if it's too gaudy to get that Prendas Mapei kit to go with it.
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Huge thanks for this - all really useful. I think if the seatpost needed cutting for me it'd go to a mechanic, I've not got a steady hand at the best of times so probably wisest that someone else does the chopping.
I'm down in Australia so availability is a little less, but there's a Look 595 going for a reasonable-ish price (£1250 with 2009 Record 11 and Shamals which I'd probably sell off) if I can convince the seller to ship. Not in a hurry so might spend some time deciding whether I'd prefer a 585 or 595 but it sounds like both would be pretty up my alley.
Light Bicycle report that a GP5000S 25mm comes up at 26.5mm on a 21mm ID rim, so seems like I'm probably safe on that front with a 585 or 595.
Hmmmm, decisions, decisions.