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Yeah I saw it last night. That's a motherflipping long stem

Not the first, certainly not the last, but that stem...

As above - the axle width depends on the cranks and the chainline measurement.

It seems the primato advanced cranks are designed to be used with the miche 107mm bb, so I would definitely get that one - http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/130300

By grind quality I mean the uniformity of particle sizes - equally as important for filter brewing as espresso. The usual problem with low end grinders is that they produce a wider range of particle sizes and lots of fines in particular, which I've found makes it harder to get a positive balance of flavours consistently.

Personally I'd be looking at the Baratza Encore, Virtuoso or Vario depending on how much you want to spend - in terms of the quality of grind anything less than those isn't really going to be any better than the particle distribution (and hence quality of coffee) a Porlex would produce

How much are you looking to spend?

The vai seatpost is lovely. Extra gramz over crabon but solid and really good value for money

Got the Eai in the post - thanks dude, have a bump!

Stem was delivered today. Cheers mate, have a bump.

Yup. The headtube angle makes the bikes look far far stupider than they already are too.

So the final build (for now....) ie listed below with any alterations in bold.

Frame and hardware
Cinelli Vigorosa 56cm F+F
Deda RHM01 compact drops
Deda/cinelli stem - unknown which one just yet Deda zero 1, logos removed
Cinelli/Thomson seatpost Cinelli vai xl
SRAM Omnium cranks - 48t
ATAC pedals got some xc-2 pedals for cheapz
Cinelli Bartape - dunno which one yet standard cork in black
Fizik Aliante saddle fabric scoop - really impressed with this so far, and for the price it puts the competition to shame
KMC chain

Popped some pics up on the build thread. As I said, I am pretty happy with how the build has turned out but I'm curious to see what you guys think too

http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/259523/?offset=25#12121233

Needless to say I am pretty chuffed with how the build has turned out

He did too. Thought he'd run off with it for a while but then sure enough he did come back. Trying to upload pics now. I want to get some better ones when there be sunshine etc but getting a suitable amount of that these days is damned impossible it seems.

I've been running it brakeless mostly but I have one for longer rides - I plan to do some serious mileage on this bike. Also have some modifications in mind for a TT spec (with revised gearing, saddle slammed forwards, steeper stem, base bar and extensions and probably other stuff) so I'll keep the thread updated with that too.

Really like that build. I thought I preferred black cranks on them, but after seeing those I think I might have been wrong. I'm gonna update my own Vigorosa build thread later too but here's a teaser... Again, be interested to hear what you guys think.

Yeah Fraid so mate - I just got it through today - cheers Tom!

Its all in the details. Really nice.

Any chances of postage?

I think I need to vomit. Where to begin....?

I reckon so mate - waiting to hear from Rob to make sure. Many excitement. So anticipation.

No worries. I reckon there might even be enough space for a larger tyre than that.... But don't hold me to it!

Ha! I totally forgot you had trispokes.

Amen to that, I'd have one at home if i didn't already use an aeropress. And a chemex. And a clever dripper... You get the picture.

Awesome to see love for Colonna and Smalls/Hunter from @danb and @rhb - has been my goto for a long time now.

I think the presence of Thomson ≠ rat bike, but that might be because I don't have any of it on mine... :D

Current rat bike. Frame is a shade big for me, but it was going cheap and I needed it at the time. It also had the original dropouts removed and track ends put on by @jonsteel24 i believe??? Correct me if I'm wrong there mate. Rest of the kit is whatever I had lying around.