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Massive irony that this is the American media.

Not really that epic WTF. Off the top of my head, he was an international sportsman, opened one Olympics, (Compared with the 2 his wife opened), and a former president of the MCC. I'm sure that he will have had many other posts with sporting associations as well. I'm pretty sure that any other MCC president's passing would be mentioned on the sports pages, so it would be strange if he was missed out.

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I know Monday's numbers are generally lower due to the reporting delays over the weekend but the death numbers are really falling.

17 today (which will climb a bit obviously, but still, that's the lowest that's been reported on a day for a long long time).

I'm starting to wonder about this. The definition of a COVID death of one within 28 days of a positive test was criticised by people saying that it included random deaths that were not due to COVID, but also people that slipped in the shower etc. and we didn't know the S/N ratio.

As a metric, this definition made sense to me when the daily deaths were 1000+, and we now know that the "noise" is no more than 30 a day given where we are. But I also think we must be very close to the point where the stats are more noise than signal. Does anyone know any way of finding out numbers of deaths where COVID is given as "cause of death" rather than death within 28 days of +ve test?

Its easy, both the BBC and ITV have their regional programming (Including football coverage) split as follows.
Sheffield is Northern.
Derby, Leicester, and Nottingham are East Midlands. (BBC have their East Midlands studio in Nottingham)
Stoke is West Midlands, and the most Northerly midlands city
The people of Crewe claim it's the most Southerly Northern town, but nobody can remember any TV company covering anything about Crewe, so its difficult to prove.

Now that we can meet officially, Wests in The Park is back on. We are taking advantage of the good weather to meet in Acton Park 5pm on Wednesday. 3 of the 6 slots are already taken, if anyone else is interested, feel free to sign up.

We normally meet on the benches West of the Pavillion.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5083867,-0.2610068,109m/data=!3m1!1e3

Given that the total positive rate in schools is 0.05% (2,588/4.6M), the false positive must be even lower than that Tom Chivers

Fair enough, however you'd expect Spiegelhalter not to find it remarkable though.

Very helpful, also interesting section on after effects.

Some kind of adverse events were reported by 38% of those receiving the real vaccine but, rather remarkably, 28% of those who received the dummy also reported a side-effect.

Does that mean that 75% of the symptoms described on here by people after having taken the jab were not attributable to the vaccine?

The LFT and PCR tests are different tests for different things. Neither is perfect, but essentially the LFT test highlights when people are infectious, and the PCR test detects presence of the virus (Even long after it is still active).

I've posted this Tom Chivers Article before, but it's well worth reading if you haven't seen it.

My mother is booked in for her second jab on Saturday, she had her first on 16th December, so I make that 11 1/2 weeks. Looks like things are running smoothly

even if it offers limited immunity to Covid itself.

I read your first post as saying that one dose of the vaccine was not particularly useful in protecting yourself against covid, which bothers me, because playing down the usefulness plays into anti-vaxer's hands. (Which I don't see you as, given the fact you've had the vaccine)

Protection against hospitalisation is not immunity.

This is true, but I don't see what point is being made?

From JVT in this evening's presentation:

Both vaccines are 60%+ effective at preventing ALL illness 1 month after the first dose.

On top of that, after 1 dose, they are reducing hospitalisations by 80%, and deaths by 85%

*death reduction stats only currently available for Phizer.

Rang my GP today to tell them they can stop texting me for the vaccine, since I've already had it and to update my records. As an aside I asked when Mrs Sifta (53) would be eligible, turns out they are currently doing anyone over 50 (White City), and she is now booked in for Saturday.

even if it offers limited immunity to Covid itself.

Where is this coming from? Have you anything to back that up? This study for starters says otherwise.

(If TLDR then this is the takeaway:- "Interpretation: A single dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA and ChAdOx1 vaccines resulted in
substantial reductions in the risk of COVID-19 related hospitalisation in Scotland.")

I'm 56 and received a text from my White City GP this morning with a link to book a vaccination tomorrow. I was not expecting that?

Oliver, you know it hasn't :) @mespilus said Easter. I think we are all getting stir crazy, with so much hope on the horizon, but still under house arrest. I'm certainly looking forward to then first post lockdown forum drinks

In answer to the other question. Yes, for me the Express Tavern is the preferred venue. I just hope that its not one of the many businesses that didn't make it through the winter, and doesn't actually open its doors come spring.

Was just reading about this. Fucking hell. Stoking uncertainty about vaccines in the middle of a pandemic, providing fuel for anti-vaxxers, to score political points. What could go wrong? It'll be interesting to see if there's similar issues in France.

Looks like France is even worse!

Chart of who would get vaccine if available this week

Edit:

Actually looking at the historical graph, things are improving, so nothing proven.

Hospitals and GP networks are prioritising different cohorts

Yes, It was announced that GPs would be concentrating on people with underlying conditions which might be more complicated, and they'd hopefully have a relationship with, rather than bulk vaccinations.

The Liverpool obesity crisis is leading to queue jumping!

@Settle very sorry, I honestly don't know. I just responded to UCLH, and booked on. (Which still looks open). I have no special knowledge of the study.

It is ok, a few friends have 'gamed' the system to make sure they get the oxford one.

A man is judged by the company he keeps

Btw, as I have posted today, that trial is still open. It needs people to sign up, feel free to join up.

I gamed the system, by signing up to a vaccine trial, and not caring about what vaccine I got, and what regime I was subjected to. Perversely I mistakenly thought that I may be getting a placebo, rather than the vaccine, I was wrong, there was no downside as far as I was concerned. But hey, ho everyone has to be happy in their own skin. I am, and I think you are.

I don't disagree,

am going to try and get the pfizer one.

This suggests that there is a preference, not that its Pfizer or nothing. But it also suggests a willingness to game the system if a way can be found, which grates.

Not exactly the correct subject matter for this thread, but hoping to get some hits/crossover.

I found out about this vaccine study needing volunteers 6 days ago, and responded (The study is for people aged 50+). Got my first injection today. They aren't hanging about.

I think UCLH are still recruiting, and they are especially interested in BAME applicants.

https://comcovstudy.org.uk/participate