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Shall we organise an online chat for anyone wanting to be a director? Maybe early in the new year? Finding a date/time is going to be hell*
I think it will be important to hear from the group who are leading the effort to understand the new OSA guidance and code of practice, so that we can fully understand the risk and possible mitigation strategies.
Once we are clear on that, then we can start setting up a CIC (or other entity), set up Open Collective and start fundraising, organise the tech team and get started building possible tech safety features, organise mods with guidelines etc.
*if only there was somewhere we could asynchronously communicate with each other. Like a message board or something.
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I'd be sorely tempted by this one if it was definitely a real Folk:
https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/edits/mens-layering/navy-quilted-overshirt/p/47569686Only £40! But the spec and photos make me think it's going to feel cheap and polyester-ey
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This one, but a few of them are similar fabric composition:
https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/edits/mens-layering/brown+beige-checkered-overshirt/p/47569200 -
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This is awesome. Just tidying the list up a bit with some people who volunteered ^^.
- Lebowski
- andyp
- Skydancer (short term)
- DoubtfulAce
- Aroogah
- mashton
- snottyotter
- Oliver Schick
- frank9755
If you haven't seen it, it's worth taking a look at this post from Velocio. If we end up going down this road, this group could possibly take on the Director roles within a CIC, with someone as Secretary/Treasurer who can set up lfgss on Open Collective and sort out the payments and money management.
Hopefully @Velocio (if they were willing) and a team of dev volunteers could help sort out the tech side.
Then we just need some mods and a whole lot of people to switch their donations to Open Collective and lfgss can live on.
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@skydancer and I are going to run through this thread in the next few days and get a list of all those people generously offering their time and skills.
So if you are a dev and can help maintain the forum, please reply here.
We will also need a bunch of mods, so if you are 'on here' all the time and can help out, please put your name down.
And if you are happy to handle the legal jeopardy that may come with being a named director of the famous lfgss, please put your name down here
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LFGSS and Microcosm shutting down 16th March 2025 (the day before the Online Safety Act is enforced)
I think you are completely out of order here and can't think why you are pushing this so hard. You speak from experience so know the effort and risk that goes into running an online community. You've spoken in great detail about the perils and pain that you have gone through. So Velocio has decided and has been pretty open that this legislation is the last straw and they are going to pack it in after 20+ years. Absolutely no-one begrudges them that decision and we are in fact all amazed that they have managed it for this long.
You, and others, may feel differently and decide to keep running your communities. Great for you. But why do you find it so hard to imagine that someone has had enough and wants to pack it in or, as suggested, possibly hand it over to others to bear the burden. Have some empathy mate.
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Yep, good call. One thing I would say is that for years the responsibility, stress, effort and risk have all fallen on one person. If we can get enough people to step up, all of that responsibility is then shared.
If we can get a number of directors (10?), then there are 10 names on the register, not just one. I believe that even with Open Collective, you can have a number of named admins of a collective, so again, that responsibility is shared.
To be fair, each named person bears the same level of risk, but at least they know that if they go down, others are going with them!
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I've created a thread for anyone who is interested in being a director.
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Put your name below if you are interested in becoming a director of whatever legal entity lfgss will become post 16 March. Keep in mind that in the case of a Ltd company or CIC, your name will be on a public register at companies house and the role does come with legal responsibilities. Saying that, either some people step up or we all move over to Discord!
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OK, so either option, we probably need something like this:
Directors: somewhere between 3 - 10 directors of the CIC/not-for-profit/Ltd company or whatever we decide to take over administrative decisions for the site
Supporters: At least 250 people willing to donate £10 every 3 months to ensure the sites financial security
Admins/moderators: 5 - 10 power users who can keep the site clean and troll free
Legal compliance: People to help with policies/toolkit if we need to comply with the OSA
Tech: Team of x number of devs to keep the site running. Offer from @duncs to build a new React frontend, @cyclotron3k make the site easily deployable and just generally make the maintenance easier for everyone. -
LFGSS and Microcosm shutting down 16th March 2025 (the day before the Online Safety Act is enforced)
I think the point that has been made before is that this legislation gives bad actors a new, bigger tool to go after website owners.
The government may not explicitly want to shut down lfgss, but now if a disgruntled troll really wanted to, they could use the OSA and the government to do so and prosecute the owner.
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I think the other option is to move the servers overseas, join (or start) an Open Collective in Europe and carry on that way out of the jurisdiction of the OSA.
I think both options have advantages and disadvantages, but we should probably decide which route to take, then start making it happen.
I think moving to Open Collective will be relatively easy and makes sense to put the site outside of the UK's jurisdiction so that would get my vote. If the EU decide to implement something similar to the OSA in the future, then we can look into compliance and mitigation then.
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LFGSS and Microcosm shutting down 16th March 2025 (the day before the Online Safety Act is enforced)
Anyone know who the secretary of state is?
@mashton probably plays squash with them on Fridays at the club
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I just finished The Outrun. I'm quite sad now