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Well I've only had them for the summer so can't really comment on long term use, but have ridden them in the rain and they are just as good. One thing I must say the vision hubs are freaking spectacular. Spin for dayzzz. As mentioned bought some Vision carbon tubs off Planet X so will be using the alus as winter wheels.

Problem with going deeper and not going carbon is the weight gain will increase exponentially. I have some Vision team 35s I think. Aluminium, 1650g shimano 11 speed, wide him . Unless you're talking about fixed ofc

I actually picked up a pair as they were so cheap. Granted as people have said heavy for low profile rim, but 1500 is still a good weight regardless. Mainly picked them up as I have a set of vision aluminium 35s and they are so good, wouldn't consider them if they weren't vision Plus want to try carbon rim + tubular.

Just read your ongoing commentary on the Schwalbe tubs, I know latex are lighter, but is there much difference puncture wise? Can you assume that if something penetrates the tyre you're pretty much screwed either way?

Read earlier you got some Schwalbe one tubs? Are you still using them? Any good? Impressed with their clinchers, and they are about £44 on Wiggle at the moment

So I ordered from Wiggle yesterday, and picked the next day delivery thinking it would be trusty Royal Mail. Turns out it's this DX bollocks and currently waiting for my parcel with not a lot of hope I must say. Why do big companies insist on using these terrible courier services, that with a quick google search have more of chance of losing my parcel than actually delivering it.

Nice to see Das Rad Klub and Dropouts showing in force. West coast bitches!

Speaking of Canyon.

Seems to have stolen the headtube from the Aeroroad, otherwise not much changing:

http://road.cc/content/news/154834-canyon-unveils-new-ultimate-cf-slx-aero-features

Now that is a Stealth Bling Road bike right there. New category perhaps?

Can't tell if you were dissing the DeRosa but I recently bought a R838 and I absolutely love it. But I bought it from my LBS with a discount and upgraded wheels for less than the RRP so it was a win win for me, I got to support my good friend and local shop and I love the brand as a whole. Though I would heartily agree that on a budget Canyon (Or the DeRibble) is the absolute best choice.

The Pina and Cinelli I posted earlier were taken off a Bike radar post, coincidentally even the guys at Bike radar weren't appreciative of the ridiculous stems on those bikes , not to mention the massacre of that Cinelli. Needless to say if you fancy a good read, the guy didn't take too kindly to his bikes being scorned : http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=13030616

This is his other bike. "Aggressive Geometry" Not that it matters when you have a stem like that. Feel sorry for the Cinelli.

Pinarello F8? check
Dura Ace Di2? check
Enve Tubs? check
Negative seat to bar drop... what?

Jesus mate, you must have been given a mega dodgy unit! Just been reading the past few pages and seems like it's messing you around. Recently got an 810 the other day, went straight to 3.60 and haven't had any problems so far. Though I am yet to navigate using it.

Very doubtful it's a fake. If anything the price could perhaps be cheaper considering it's a 6 year old bike at the least, £3000 or not that's a lot of potential use. http://road.cc/content/review/3819-colnago-clx-centaur

Wow good luck mate, that's some serious riding. I remember doing the DD for the first time I didn't struggle with the physical aspect, my legs just switched to Auto after 50 miles, but I found it difficult to deal with being on a bike for so long. I mean that's only 120+50ish to Ipswich, and I don't do long rides all the time, nothing compared to this though. Have you thought about ways to keep yourself entertained? Or are you just going to use stray bears as motivation?

Also you mentioned the live-tracking, is that through a garmin/phone combo? I'm sure it's somewhere in this thread but I am lazy :)

Would if they were Shimano 11 speed. GLWS

What amuses me is the fact that directly above said offending post was a similar post with a male model instead. Albeit without a rating out of 10, but in a similar vein. Don't see any white knights defending his honor. (That was a joke)

Can't beat preowned for price, but this is the cheapest you'll find them online new :http://www.handtec.co.uk/satnav-gps/cycling-gps.html About £110 for the 500 and £170 for the 510

Picked up my new roadbike yesterday, went for 105 11 speed as the jump to Ultegra was £500. Not as refined as Ultegra (obviously) but still impressive for the price, and love the shifting.

Not strictly related, but as a Marlborough native I had no idea that sportive existed. Definitely will get on that next year. Chapeau to doing it fixed though, the hills round here are no joke.

Hey Vicky,

A quick google search produced the "Arthur Caygill" bike shop in North Yorkshire, and upon further investigation they actually produce their own frames and the head technician is actually named Arthur Caygill. So I imagine if anyone knows about the bike it's these guys.

Link:http://arthurcaygillcycles.co.uk/about

+1 for 6800, got the option to go Di2 now or later. Force is lighter by about 100g or something, there is a thread on WW if you care about that kind of thing.

At the end of the day:"They're all great. Ride the brand that you are comfortable with in terms of hood shape, appearance and shifting mechanism."

Absolutely beautiful mate. How come you want the SLRs? Surely the weight is fairly similar to the current wheels. Of course quality is probably better though.

Funnily enough I am also considering a road bike build around £2000 - £2.5k. Personally I think the biggest contenders are Cervelo and Canyon, you absolutely cannot beat Canyon for good value against performance, and Cervelo have got some good pedigree/reviews.

I'm probably going to get a Fondriest TF3 as a complete wildcard due to the fact that I've ridden one and a good friend/ex-boss of mine owns a shop that sells them so I'll get a good deal.

Would be interested to see what you go for.