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Sound! I did eyeball the fluted ones before I went snakeskin on mine.

I do like Berthouds too, but since fitting the VO on the 650b, but much prefer the VO fitting hardware to the GB.

Honjos would be nice, but I do struggle to justify the $$$

This looks bang on! Although I do love the Raleigh paint, it is screaming for something a little more sympathetic as it's built. Mudguards will probably be OK at that length as long as you have decent flaps. Seems daft outlying for another set at the price PX were doing them.

Honjo???

Looking forward to full build pics!

Cheers @edscoble it was a very cheap new set which quickly sold on the bay. Probably was the same silver set @andy_k
Might still hold out for a custom build though. Dynamo lighting for this winter coming I think...

How do you find the Halo for reliability/longevity @edscoble ? Nearly bid on a set for the daily bike not long back, but thought it better to hold out for a set of Hope Pro 2 or perhaps a custom build on old Japanese XT 6 bolt hubs if I could find any...

Clement on the ball too... Strada USH on the way by the looks...

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/what-is-road-plus-650b-taipei-cycle-show/

Good spot @amey might consider those for the daily bike...

Looking well this. Still think it's a shame Raleigh went to the wall, I would have thought a Special Products division would be thriving these days.

Intrigued to see the finished build.

Loved my frame course - book sooner rather than later if you have an itch to do one as the waiting lists can be quite a while. I built a track bike with Dave Yates, then did the 650b frame on my own at home.

https://flic.kr/p/v2HWqx

Cheers for the heads up @edscoble have you had a play with the Klamper yet? Any justification on the premium over a BB7 considering it's a similar set up with one of the pads sat static.

@tyeness gutting news. Hoping you have some insurance cover to get what you are owed. Although most importantly wishing a full and swift recovery!

@TheShipwright my bad - just saw the rim brake compatible... you may struggle... check A Cycles for the Grand Bois options...

Thanks! It's a custom, made by me... ha ha... no build thread. Although I might do a retrospective one. Plenty of shots on my Instagram @outhousepics

Much appreciated @tyeness it's not amazing, but not bad for a first build. Learnt a lot for the second incarnation...

@TheShipwright Stans rims too, WTB KOM i25... loads of mtb 27.5 rims to go at.

Decent advice in my opinion.

Avid BB5 and BB7 are pretty bomb proof I think - although the disk rub did my head in on an old bike.

I've just put a set of TRP Spyre through a salty winter, thus far have been fine (they replaced a Hope VTWIN - far happier with the TRP, and more powerful too...)

Strines is on the left... this is the road to Dungworth/Bradfield

A couple of hundred miles in on the home build now, can't see me going back to anything narrower than 30+mm for the road now. I've been a little precious taking it off the beaten track yet, but hopefully a dry few months will see that changed to some smooth miles down as many tracks I can piece together.

Didn't strip my SLC's on the 650 build, but did liberally spray and work a load of lubricant in to the calipers this weekend. Worked a treat on a slightly stuck front caliper. Will be repeating regularly! Thanks for the heads-up

Looking great this! Enjoy some miles on it...

PS... for all those on the Grand Bois Hetre - they were quite a bit discounted on A Cycles last time I looked ~£36 each?

Yes 42mm certainly feel absolutely no slower than my 700x28 on the daily bike - just far more comfortable in general, and noticeably quicker on rough tarmac. Looking forward to some interesting summer rides on mixed surfaces.

Bit gutted I didn't give a bit more clearance in my frame to take a ~50mm tyre like that one @edscoble - saw it pop up on Instagram the other day.

Although saying that 42mm are running well!

@jontea Dave Yates course for lugless ;-)

Top bloke and a great week in the workshop with almost daily air displays from the RAF...

Cheers for the link on the spyre service. Will do that on mine as preventative although I think they may have been binding a little too...

Looking good.

A bit shocked that you were able to melt the lug though - how close by was the tutor when that happened? It must have had some fair heat in the flame to let that happen...
Should easily be fixed with a bit more brass or silver and some clean up with the files though.

I've had similar issues with getting flow at the seat lug (exact same LongShen as yours) and I have wondered if it's also a bit down to tight tolerance too... I prefer using slightly smaller flames than normal like you.
I'm going to drill a couple of holes in the next one I use - or use a different seat lug. As you say it's a fair chunk of metal by the binder bolt.

Any progress on the back end?

Enjoy the course. I'm pretty sure you'll find brazing lugs far easier than tig welding.

Love this! Great build!