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Thanks for the reply, it's a steel Specialized Langster, which I think was aimed at the wanna-be hipster market, rather than the velodrome. It was marketed by Evans cycles as suitable for the velodrome, but I think the BB height might only be 10.5". Having read up on it a bit more now, I think the cranks might be 165, so it's not all bad. Also, it should be ok for Aldersley velodrome (my local track) as that's outdoors, but I bought it mainly for riding on the boards at Derby, which it may not be suitable for. I'm picking it up middle of next month and thought it'd be nice to know in advance.

Hi, I've just bought a cheap 58cm steel Langster (looks like 2010 model) on ebay with a view to using it as a track bike. I'm expecting to have to change the cranks as I think they're 170 rather than 165, but I'm starting to think the BB height may be less than the required 11", does anyone know if this is the case?

Good call, especially as I need to buy a couple of things from SJS anyway (no free p&p with them I think).

Can anyone suggest a grooved dropped handlebar with a 26mm centre section diameter? At the moment Deda Piega seems the most likely option but not sure I want black.

I've always found tape far less messy than glue.

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What has happened to post pics on this site?
I'll do it this way:

New back wheel built and fitted. Halo Aerorage rim, Ambrosio Zenith Endurance hub, DT Swiss spokes.

Seems to work alright.
Looking at the picture, the rear brake cable looks a bit on the short side, may have to see to that.

Thanks for all the advice

The trouble is I can't keep up with other posters

Sorry that reply doesn't make sense now, I meant this thread is complete from my perspective

@mdcc_tester , that's ok, I've finished now.

We have to bear in mind aesthetics though, I saw one on "weight weenies" and it looked quite nice.

and do I dare go 28 straight laced on the front?

Right, I've had time to look up a bit more about the tubeless tyre system and I've got to say it's quite tempting, it would certainly make sense to buy rims that are "tubeless ready" even if I don't immediately go for tubeless tyres. The wife informs me I owe the AA £200 (that's the Automobile Association rather than any other AA) so I may have to hang fire for this month but DT Swiss 460 may be on order soon. Then I'll have to decide on hubs... and that might lead to cassette doubts... followed by chainset doubts... there's going to be no end to the indecision!

Much apologies dancing james! I rarely know what I'm talking about!

Right, I definitely haven't got them on my fixie! I will go and hang the washing out and ponder on the subject.

I will look in to it... technology moves too fast!

I'm not keeping up here

We are talking old style glue them on aren't we?

Unless tubeless is something else...

Sorry, they were always called "tubs" in our house; I have tubeless on my fixie.

No, I've got tubs on my fixie, but not for me on a road bike.