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Panaracer Gravel King

Part of my Japanese/New School sleeve, done by Lyz at Dapper Tattoo in Delft (The Netherlands)

Fork and headset have arived from Germany today. Tried the front wheel to see if it would fit. About 10mm each side, could fit a bigger tyre 🤔. Not right now though. Headset is just a Ritchey Pro Logic one, thought about Hope or King but in the end budget decided (€30,00/£500.00 for Pro Logic) and the fork has a 45* crown race integrated. Weight is with uncut steerer and without the suplied bung.

Went for a nice ride around 'Het Westland' (greenhouse area between Den Haag and Rotterdam) yesterday to try out the 650b setup on my Grade. Lots of neglected cycle lanes and country lanes with crappy surfaces. Made for a comfy exploring type of ride. I can say for sure that the Panaracer GK 42mm didn't make me slower, average speed was the same as my other rides without pushing as hard (hr monitor zone 1-2 instead of 2-3).

However, I wouldn't advise this setup. Clearance between the chainstays is tight, 2-3mm now the tyres measure 42mm. Fine with me for a couple of rides because these wheels are going on an other bike soon and I'm never too far from home/ my wife can pick me up with my car. But 38mm would be safer, and then it would be easier and cheaper to just chuck a couple of Jon Bon Passes on the standard wheels.

So, fun yes. But the (alloy) Grade is not really a good 650b option imho.

This thread reminds me of The Bing Bang Theorie; 'Shame on all of you'. But still, so funny.

'Enter the Wu-Tang' while sipping Jack, with earbuds in 'cause the wife's asleep. Trip down memory lane.

Short update after a ride around the block on the Grade: big tyres make a lot of noise, Hope hubs make a lot op noise, 3 bar rear 2.5 bar front is too much gonna try 2.5/2.0 next, cycling after an hour of one-on-one kickbox training is hard.
Oh, and after a day the tyres measure 42mm with calipers.

Clearance is tight, about 4mm each side on the chainstays. Tyres measure 40/41mm.

650b gnarmac balence bike ftw. Thought I check to see if it fits before switching cassette/discs and fiddle with the rear mech.

I guess, tried different things for two hours. Pinched the beads together, soaped up the sides, try and "help" the beads on the rim. After a lot of swearing and pumping like a mad man I called a bike shop and asked if they had an air compressor. Showed up, one squirt of air and the beads popped. Squirted in the Stans latex through the stem, another blast of air and I walked out of there shaking the wheel while I walked back to my car.

Spamming all the threads. Panaracer Gravel King 27.5x1.75 on Hope Pro4/Stans Crest. Wheels meant for frame building project next month but for now I'm gonna find me some gnarmac on my Grade.

Only just fits the Grade. Will ride them a bit until the other bike is done.

Rear tyre? Not so easy. Friendly lbs to the rescue! Great to have a lbs open on Sunday.

Wrestled with the rear tyre for two hours before ringing lbs to see if they had an air compressor... Nice to live in a cycle forward country where at least two bike stores near me are open on a Sunday. Charged me nothing but have to show the bike when finnished.

No; ik verander, zij verandert, wij veranderen. It's Dutch. "Communication & Change"

Panaracer Gravel King on Hope Pro4/Stans Crest wheelset. Tyre weighs 350g at 40mm, hoping the tyre stretches a bit. Will try them on my GT Grade tomorow but they are for a yet to be build road bike.
Link to my build thread: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/287344/#comment13039373

So, Stans Notubes kit came in yesterday thanks to mantel.nl and I spend a big portion of the evening watching how to videos and reading on mountain bike forums because I never mounted tubeless before. Had to work today but after dinner with my wife in the back room watching video lectures I went to work in the living room. Some Discovery show about streetracing on in the background and I was set. Cleaned the wheels, taped them up, fitted the valves. Grabbed a tyre and struggled with the extremly tight bead for at least a minute or two. No levers, no sore thumbs, no swearing. Did I do something wrong? Grabbed my trackpump from the hallway and started pumping quite fast. Ping, pop, tyre seated. This is not supposed to be easy. Pumped the tyre up to 4 bar to seat the tyre and the tape and admired my handy work.

So far the good news. The bad(ish): tyre measures 40mm, so not so biiiiig. Let's see how big they get when I put some miles on them. This might take a while because while the wheel tyre combo fits fine between the fork legs of my GT Grade, the rear looks realy tight. Will fit the rear tomorow and find out just how tight. If it fits I'll put some miles (well km's) on them before building, if not they stay nice and clean for a couple of months.

Enjoying a nice whiskey sour* on the couch now. Pictures!

*My own recipe: 1 part mandarin orange/ lime juice freshly squized off course, 1 part bourbon, no sugar/ sugarsyrup, ice. Shaken not stirred.
**I know the valve and label don't line up, tyre will come of to ad latex. And yes, it does bug me right now...

38 and 42 are availible, I picked the 42s because you know, biiiiiiig* tires. According to the Panaracer website the 38s should come in at 310g.

*Might not be so biiiiiiig...

Tyres are in (f#ckin hell Chainreaction are slow), tubeless kit ordered. Both tyres come in way below claimed weight at 352g and 349g respectively. Lets hope they are not wrongly labelled 38s... Will (try to) mount the tires this weekend and get some measurement from them.

I don't have calipers at the moment so I'll eyeball them with a ruler.
21mm give or take an eyelash.

Ordering the fork in a fortnight, tyres have been ordered yesterday so I'll find out if it fits or not soon enough. Saw a picture of the fork with a measured 700x38 with loads of room that's why I'm trying it. If not, custom steel fork it is.
Whole reason for going 650b is wiiiiiiiiide tyres, I'm 6'1 so don't need it for frame restrictions or toe overlap 😬

First update: wheels are in. Purple is lush/lairy. Rest of the bike will be quite restraint so I'm sure it will work. Best of all; finaly some pics!
Put the wheels on the scales of course, no tape, qr or cassete.

@Chak I thought about Compass but they are pricy for the black tyres. Maybe next set when I'm done giving my wallet cpr...

And a pic of the bike that inspired me to build and inspired the idea for the subtle fade paintjob.

Warning: lots of words with no pics yet

I started out working in a garage pimpin' out cars. Didn't know what I wanted to do and this job came my way. I worked on cars for eight years and realised that my back and general health would not be happy doing this till old age. So I started going to school again in the evenings and found a new job working in a bookstore. I really love what I do but after not working with my hands for nine years my palms started to itch, I really need to do something on the side that involves creating stuff. Been playing with bikecad for years so I thought why not have a go. Looked around on the interweb for a course but could only find them abroad. No problem, I'll make it a vacation. Cue me pikking up a magazine when working in the evening and reading a piece about doing a course in Amersfoort, The Netherlands. Still 130km away but I have relatives near there.

Visited Martin Bekking (Bekking Frameworks) last week to check out his place and discuss the frame I wanted to build. He thinks it shouldn't be problem building it in six days so on July 18 we start building.

Bike will be a 650b road bike, clearance for 42-45 wide tyres but with a 'fast' road bike geo. Bit like a Slate but with a normal fork.

The most important bit; (sorry, no pictures yet) The list:
-Frame: Columbus Zona, 73* sta, 73* hta, 75mm bb drop, 415mm chainstays, reach 385, stack 600, level or max 2* sloping top-tube
-Fork: Ritchey Carbon Cross disc fork
-Groupset: Shimano 105 hydro disc 1x11
-Wheels: Purple Hope Pro4 on Stan's Crest (ordered, needed for checking while building)
-Tyres: Gravel King 27.5x1.75
-Finishing kit: Ritchey

Paintjob will probably be charcoal metalic to dark grey metalic fade with purple lettering (same colour as hubs) with the rest of the parts all black.

And the name? Eesu or Ēsu is ace in phonetic Japanese, my last name is just one A.
Sounds better than Aso (Italian) witch means anti social in Dutch...

I think you own Hope/Crest wheels as well, would you pick the Halos over the H/C?