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I got another...3. It's like the Bike Rules on how many bike: N+1 with N being bikes you already own :) This is the last however, no garage! It will get prime spot on the wall in the landing upstairs, one is in porch, one is behind kitchen table and the beater is outside (hub gears/chain guard) so it can get wet.

But to compare: This wholly built (including frame) well...it I can get it done for £450 I've done well. A chorus 8 groupset is £150 but once you go back in time, well £350 at least? On e-bay...so you need to hunt to find parts by part. Then you need to get a saddle, rims, spokes etc...

For £500 you can get a used Chris Boardman Crabon bike which is a gazillion times less fancy and also a gazillion times handier for a race.

See what I mean? For people that don't care about vintage, how the frame is built and just want light weight frame and modern parts this is a bit nuts. If you want period however it's better to hunt rather than buy a full bike on fleabay that way it's economic again :)

Tx :)

Not going to go for one that doesn't look good anyway. But yeah let me add your suggestion to Hunt List.

I am not surprised most people don't bother with vintage builds as it's fun but totally uneconomic ;)

Well it seems the vote is clearly vintage part (around 1978). That will be my first L'Erioca legal bike. I made some contacts asking around to gather parts, and see what I can find :)

I might go for a modern saddle though ;)

My fixie (Charge Hob 2011) is 42/16...haven't been able to take it out this week due to slushy roads with surprise frost patches ;( The Thorn XTC tourer is a versatile tough beast and that's been my main ride equipped with Marathon Winters.

Hi Lilywhite all in jest :)

Were the older systems in 1978 STI I'd just go for them right away :)

The old brake levers do look super lovely :)
Saw a Nuovo Record Rear DR with yellow finish on NR area another jewelry part.

I've a possibly bad habit of staying(on flat of course) in 52/16 most of the time and just muscling through... :S

Chorus 8 modern? A few may disagree... ;)

I'd literally only be STIs anyway, previous owner had it with Chorus 8 and said it looked OK.

Maybe I should try a downtube shifting bike...too young to ever had one...my dad sold his racer when I was like 8...I might like it!

LOL :)

6 speed Canpag on 8 speed STI, does that work?
Cos I am happy with 12 gears, downtube shifters is the only thing where I go...err...

A local bike friend recommended this forum and thanks to a member here I am now the proud owner of a 1978 Ciocc San Cristobal, pre-take over of Ciocc.

Thanks to the member here for offering the frame :)

I e-mailed Mr Pelizolli on http://www.pelizzoliworld.com/ and they confirmed it's a nice frame, and above average with the chromed details. They couldn't remember any info from the frame nr, so who bought it/rode it first etc. is lost in the mists of time.

The rear spacing is 126...so that brings some technical decisions to make: Respace OR re-dish wheel to work with modern group/8 speed Chorus or go full Record/Nuovo Record and accept down tube shifters and high prices for parts.

Currently working out if using STIs on record front/rear derailleur is feasible. Cable pull might not be the same, so may have to be Chorus 8 speed front/rear on period (Nuovo) record parts, eg seatpost, cranks, bottom bracket etc.

This may take a while as it's my first build...and backwards compatibility issues are a puzzle for a novice like me, but it's a fun learning process which will end with a lovely vintage racer :)

Technical advice more than welcome! Have to buy all the parts too.

That works on snow, but not on ice.

Spacycles and Wiggle sales are the way to go nearer November time to get winter tires in...

Aye the manicured hands thing in CTC mag was a tad much...maybe I should moan as I am a member. However, fair play to them!

whole grain but not totally wholesome

Well the greenway (walkers/cyclists only) turned into a veritable icerink on some areas with as added bonus snow with tracks that froze over...

...The 26" schwable marathon winters studs however cut straight through not derailing me one bit (that's what I always HATE about snow tracks they force you to following the track) and I went right on like there was nothing.

With some crunchy sounds of course ;)

Glad the roads were clear, no way I am going to play with White Van Man who will not have done anything about his tires!

CTC also has a pro cycling team now for women: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/536531/ctc-women-s-racing-team-launches.html

I flipped some kids throwing an iceball at my leg...I am just bad tempered :):)

T'was a bit sore and I was on a busy road, way to scare the cyclist...

Saw it yesterday a couple of issues...

The Bad:

Cardboard depth characters (we can blame Holywood)
Girl fixing her wheel by tensioning one whole spoke (RLY?)
Girl doesn't get to do cool stunts like guys
Messengers looking like total knobends in traffic
Super overacted baddy

The good

Stunts not bad
Some nice bikes/outfits/tattoos
Messengers helping each other out

Em...that's it.

Time to watch Quicksilver me thinks...or better wait for annoying slush/snow to go so the fixie can come out again ;)
:)

Ouch :(

I ended up cleaning massive grot out of everything as I noticed my chain turned NOOOO RUST ORANGE due to all the salt on the road. Grot on sprockets was so thick you'd think it was rubber.

Yay for clay soil...

Schwalbe Marathon Winter studded tires...and be on extra guard for skidding cars :)

Cold? Pedal harder ;)

I was a right idiot cycling through snow 2 years ago on normal tires (no falls but not fun) and cycling through a storm that was so bad the streetlights was fading in/out as the electricity network was getting near breaking point.

But the bus full of grumpy people is worse, and as the kerbs aren't gritted it's either falling on the kerb or on the roads... ;(

http://cykelnmag.altervista.org/

All issues readable on the web and they took care to interview some ladies too.

Riders interview and some reviews of bags etc.

Somebody who commutes daily might be a start...no matter what rider you are, bus stops on the middle of cycle lanes are a recipe for disaster, so is having cycle lanes used as parking areas, unsafe crossings.

Which means Boris should know about this but maybe the man is just not very smart or half asleep on his bike ;)

Anybody have to put up with that on a daily basis through various areas, no matter what type of cyclist you are, will have first hand experience with the issues and meet various types of cyclist on the road.

It seems most big cities share the same problems: A wider outlook might be good too, see how NL/Germany etc. work out how to share space meant for cars/cyclists.

Segregated cycle lanes are the norm in NL, I don't mind being on the road, but they may increase uptake of cycling due to increased subjective safety (away from cars people feel safe even though cycling number-wise is very safe)

We get total numpties developing cycle policies over in Belfast, Norn Ire also. People that never ride a bike going on "be safe" photo tours, wobbling over the road while the roads service lets all and sundry park on cycle lanes and some cycle lanes end after 6 meters.

Rant over :P

If any candidate is a fixie/downhilling/vintage bike nut I'd consider that to be a bonus... ;)

Bull. Cycling dangerously is actually illegal. They can't be bothered.

Charge Hob size Small, 2011 model, cycling fixed now with SPDs

http://www.lfgss.com/album.php?albumid=2550&pictureid=14797

Thorn XTC 2004 steel made in UK tourer 525L, 26" tourer with clearance to 2.1 tires ideal take it everywhere bike and takes 20-25KG load too

http://www.lfgss.com/album.php?albumid=2550&pictureid=14796

(too big top tube 55cm but it works with saddle all the way forward and short stem)

And build soon to come Ciocc San Christobal. My first build :)

I am 1.65/5"5' with short upper body/arms and 3o" inseam legs, so yes TT is often the problem. Need 38 bars too.

http://www.ctc.org.uk/national-cycling-charity-launches-women%E2%80%99s-elite-cycling-team

Good move IMHO pro female cycling is underfunded and doesn't get a lot of media attention.

Magazines (bar the CTC, a touring/commuting orientated charity) are very male-orientated too, November's cycling plus had no female testers on the bike tests, no female specific articles...even ads all had males in them bar 1 (!) and the mag gets listed with "men's mags" in the ads.

Sheesh...almost makes you wish for a stereotypical hot woman on bike picture to address the gender imbalance ;)

Cycling specific? I fit a 29 so interested :)

Strict liability is good I think. Everybody knows where they stand that way.
And cars wins from bike, bike wins from pedestrian ;)

Try SJS cycles, I think they have it. These guys have EVERYTHING include small niggly things you may have lost on the way.
Even a bag of workshop floor stuff, eg a mixed bag with screws, bolts etc.

http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/forums/index.php

Guys here are dead-on with Danneux a veritable treasure trove of information.

This forum focuses on long distance touring, what to bring on tours, what clothing to wear, what tents to buy etc. if you're planning a big tour it's a great place to go.