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I didn't say let's stop, just not go down the pre EU route. And TBH we're not the best engineers anymore and space rockets and formula 1 cars are not exactly big GDP contributers are they?

Edit: I agree engineering overall is productive for the country as an export atm but with the EU single market being our biggest customer by far due to trade agreements. No trade agreements, means we have to compete in an open market, we're not cheap enough.

Plus doesn't progress in those fields require scientific research or R&D, ah that's right we voted out didn't we - which probably means we'll fall further behind.

TBH I'm not sure productive manufacturing is the way we should be going. Competing against countries where life is cheap is never going to get us anywhere except back to pre-EU levels of wages and ridiculously long working hours.
Thatcher was right in investing (time, money and effort) in the financial sector, let's just hope that London isn't too badly affected and as a Country we can still reap the rewards of her legacy.

I think Sagan will be more suited to today's course. Unless Cav's team can help him make up time on the mid section. I hope I'm wrong tho.

According to the BBC she put up a hell ov a fight to many types of C.

Her humour wasn't my cuppa tea, but my Indonesian wife thought the Royle Family was hilarious. Which is nice,the thought this talented lady could spread humour across continental divides, is just....nice. RIP funny lady.

Fuck that was good. Different kinda levels as when I was kid doing the worm.

Gotta make sure he opens the dentistry on time.

Serious question, why does it have the head tube angle changer thing option? I've not seen that before.

My experience was, coming from a very disadvantaged area and when I was at school and experiencing a shitty home life; The message I was getting from colleges and uni's was that only the clever people enrolled at them.

Due to shitty home life and bullying my grades were shite and so college and uni 'was never an option' in my mind. I've now got a masters degree and doing OK in life. When I talk to my peers who I grew up with, we all say the same 'we were classed as under achievers', so the college/uni route simply wasn't explored during our career advisor 1:1 sessions.

Things in my area have changed massively, it's now a case of 'no child left behind', attitude. My son is on the ASD scale, thanks to this new 'can do' attitude he now has a nursing degree and doing well at work.

So personally I think it's the 'can do' attitude that has helped 'under achievers' where I live.
Who has driven this change or why I've no idea, but I'm fucking glad they did and I'm guessing this has happened in other disadvantaged areas aswell, hence the increase in applications from 'disadvantaged' students.

NB:
I fucking hate the term 'disadvantaged students', it makes a mockery of the intelligence of the students and sets them aside from others.

I think he may be right, I don't think a full exit is possible- we may do a Greenland reversal thing. We'll be hokey kokey-ing neither in nor out.

The racist shit that going around is scary, we are a mixed race family. We've experienced first hand nasty shit, now Brexiteers have given my local area their blessing to be more openly xenophobic and racist.

Which is what I was suggesting, but I can't see him wanting to go lower than 165's though.

ah, you're already running 165's.

Maybe I misunderstood, do you want the saddle lower or higher?

Daft idea, but maybe shorter crank arms?

Describes it as his mid range tourer.

I'll take that back. Sorry I didn't read it properly. I just did a quick Google search for keyboard warrior.

Edit: I forgot to apologise for any offence caused

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So you get called out for stigmatising a group of people and that's your response. You seem a swell guy.

Just to correct you, ASD isn't a mental illness, it's a neurological abnormality.

The pit lane commentator?karoom is brilliant. Imo the best one I've seen, knows his shit and puts it across informatively.

I just put the Welsh dude bits on mute, so C4 coverage is actually quite good.

Actually I reckon the hint thing is worth a shot. Up for 7 days then a hint, another 6 days then another hint, another 5 days then the location. That way it'll flow n people will get to learn about Manchester.

Tbf, as far as tri bikes go, it's not that bad.

Can someone photochop his arm 90 degrees forward and 10 degrees up. It'll show him for what he is.

These are not good times, I genuinely do worry what will be left for my grandchildren, if I'm lucky enough to have grand kids.

I've always thought a bigger area would get more interested. It seems quite a small group that does this. As for not knowing them, google images and Google fu usually finds them.

I found this one in 5 mins without having a fucking clue where or what it was.

I'm at the Sandbar on Saturday. If it's not gone then I'll grab it after a few beers.

The comments make me sad and wonder if we're heading the same as Yugoslavia.