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First interval session today of a fresh 5k block, thoughts on using race shoes for interval sessions? I’ve usually just used the daily trainers for all but race day

Didn’t get in into London either. Have an entry for Manchester but wife’s cousin is signed up to Copenhagen in may so might ditch Manchester in favour of joining him

That’s a mega time, good on him!

I take my 2.5yo in the babyjogger every week in the hope that it inspires her to give it a go when she’s a bit older. She loves the buzz and it’s the only thing she’ll get in the buggy for nowadays, provided I hand her a steady stream of snacks along the way.

6min/km over a half is over 2 hours moving - I personally wouldn’t run that on empty, but it depends on some factors like how well you’re adapted to distance on empty, and where on the exertion scale 6min/km is for you.

My go to is a bowl of porridge at least 1 hour ahead of a run of that distance, and I’d probably still take a couple of gels or liquid nutrition and water. I see a lot of instagrammers smashing more simple carbs like a bagel with honey, you’d probably get away with something like that closer to starting your run?

Underarmour Lycra shorts with pockets on the thighs and liner less shorts for me, but I used a flip belt for extra gel storage on the only marathon I’ve ran, and still use it with the one pair of lined shorts I own to carry my phone and keys

Nothing at stake other than local reputation/ego.

Club is only starting out, and this is likely an attempt at garnering interest in running locally/fundraising to finish building the track.

I’d like to say yes to alternating between tempo and full gas, but I’m not sure I could talk myself into dialling back when the race starts and people go up the road. If everything else those weeks was easy, would it still be too hard on the body?

Is weekly racing detrimental to progress in a training plan?

As mentioned above im working on improving on my 5k time from its current ~19:15, and have set out an 8 week plan based loosely on:

Monday: off
Tuesday: speed workout
Wednesday: easy
Thursday: off/swim
Friday: off/easy bike
Saturday: Parkrun with toddler in buggy or tempo run
Sunday: long run

However, local club have announced summer 5k series, 4 races starting Monday and I’d like to do these, but will it be detrimental to progress? I also need to keep Parkrun with the toddler in as much as possible to keep some calm in the house. I’m thinking:

Monday: race
Tuesday: easy
Wednesday: speed workout
Thursday: off/swim
Friday: long run (90 mins max)
Saturday: Parkrun with toddler (easy) or easy run
Sunday: off

I’ve had this plan saved in my bookmarks since it was posted here and only today opened it. This is pretty huge volume (at least from a relative newbie perspective). Have many people on here gotten through it with 100% compliance and no injuries?

I’m currently focusing on improving my 5k time over an 8 week plan (with a long term view to hopefully targeting a sub 3 marathon in spring of next year) and was planning to roll into a good 10k plan after the 8 weeks, with an easy week in the middle of course. I thought I’d try this plan but it’s pretty mental- I’ll go for the advanced plan instead

Haha nah I’ve packed in the tri for the foreseeable on the basis that with 2 young kids and a heavy enough workload I’d just annoy myself trying to squeeze in 3 disciplines properly. Focusing on improving 5k for the next 2 months, then I’ll do either a 10k or half marathon block, before going into a marathon block in January for Manchester or London.

Ironic given run was always my least favourite, but it’s also where I’m seeing massive improvements so motivation is high.

Speaking of Parkrun, finally went sub20 (19:55) with 2.5yo in the buggy on Saturday - next stop sub 19:30.

The local course is an out and back with a long drag from 2-2.5km which totally empties the legs, and not a fast course generally.

Can’t say 10x400 was particularly pleasant at 5:30am mind you…

Thanks all for the reassurance, admittedly I thought 4k of effort on empty wasn’t the end of the world, and better than not doing it. I typically do a hard swim on empty every Thursday and am still getting stronger so figured a run would be much the same.

Will crack on with the crack of dawn runs

What are the experienced runners thoughts on early morning speed sessions?

With a 2.5 year old and a 6 week old in the house, and a job that’s getting increasingly busy, my only guaranteed time to get a run in is first thing, and I mean really first thing (5am dog walk, 5:30am run).

I had a 10x400m in the diary this morning, so had a carb heavy dinner and 3 weetabix before bed, apple and banana before the dog walk this morning. Session wasn’t easy but I hit the numbers. Running coach mate gave me a bit of an earful for doing a session like that depleted of glycogen and said to have a gel before and mid way next Tuesday.

Anyone else on the dawn runs notice any ill effects of sessions largely on empty?

Damn that’s fast!

I chipped another second off my local Parkrun pb with the toddler in the babyjogger, 20:17, but I think I could go comfortably sub 20 with the buggy on an easier course. My local one is an out and back with a bit of a valley at 1km with a steep descent/ascent both ways, and a 500m long incline from 2-2.5km.

I rarely get to Parkrun without the toddler these days but last time I ran it solo on tired legs I managed a 19:30. I think I could see a time staring with 18 if I got there solo now.

I wear my metaspeed skys for 5 and 10ks and have pb’d both distances in them, plus they look fast. Wear them.

I don’t know why I’d need a moon phase watch but that is very pretty

Yeah as the others have said, tri suit under wetsuit, and I wear my race belt with my number clipped on under my wetsuit too.

You’ll be so amped up with adrenaline you won’t notice the wet/cold, especially if it’s a sprint or Olympic distance.

Even if you’re just dabbling in tri a tri suit and number belt are almost essential.

Grab a cheap tri suit, you will be glad of it, simplifies transition infinitely

I echo the not fixing something that isn’t broken. I used the same socks and shoes I planned to run in for every long run from about 6 weeks out from my first marathon….and then I bought the same pair of shoes half a size bigger in the expo the day before and ran in them (I was fine and they were more comfortable)

Is there a forum approved HM improvers plan?

Looking at trying to match my current marathon PB albeit on a much more challenging course in early October, and a HM PB attempt in early July seems like a nice mid point. Should give me 12 weeks of a HM plan, a week off, and 12 weeks of a marathon plan - daft idea?

That’s a mad solo effort on open roads with zero support! I’m in awe!

Having worn a garmin 24/7 for nearly 4 years, and briefly alongside a whoop, I have concluded that sleep tracking is inaccurate and sometimes detrimental. I found that some days I woke up feeling great but garmin/whoop told me I slept awfully for whatever reason, and then I didn’t know how I felt. With a toddler and newborn I wasn’t really in a position to change my sleep habits either, so now the garmin only goes on for runs. As mentioned up thread, your phone will make a reasonably good estimate of your steps too if you have it in your pocket.

I actually brought it to Omega on Regents street back when I was gifted it for a service, the reference number was printed on the assessment form: 688715/311036

Actually I should clarify that Longines I posted yesterday is my first foray into buying a nice watch for everyday use. I was gifted this dressy manual omega by my wife’s godmother for our wedding a number of years ago, but it really doesn’t come out all that often. It has no real markings to speak of on it but maybe the keen eyed amongst you might know what it is?

Just took my first step into the world of nicer timepieces, a considerable upgrade from the classic swatch I’ve been sporting since stopping wearing my garmin 24/7.

Big thanks to @Ecobeard and also @ejay2.0 for the guidance despite me not buying anything through him, both very generous with their time.