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I did similar with the Ti-Raleigh Track that looks to be around 54cm, looks to be the 531 version and not the 753 though, somewhat happy I got rejected with that message though

Cheers lads, are we doing our bit to make this the actual #friendliestforumontheinternet ?!

to be honest @motoko I wouldn't ever bother with that; could probably get away with it 99% of the time, but it seems a bit untruthful, and the 1% of the time that the buyer clocks on 2 months after the sale and you have to refund would be a real fucker

Cheers for the bumps everyone, @dick fair enough #brandnew is probably a bit of a stretch, but it's not unlike potential buyers are left in the dark over anything.

@motoko bargain for you, I didn't, this one also has a £120 BB installed, admittedly it does have the paintchip on the stay. You've also linked the rim brake version, new (can I call it that now?) disc brake versions are pretty scarce at the moment.

As for the price, I'm fully prepared for offers and I'm often reasonable with buyers (@dick knows this) I'm not making any profit at my price when all fees etc. are considered, however... with all grumblings considered, I'll bang a £25 discount on it.

NOW £700posted

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This is a brand new Caad12 frameset, comes with all the gubbins you can see in the photo: headset, seatclamp, a Shimano hydro brake hose (has been hooked up, but no oil put in so is in new condition) DI2 and standard cable stop for the rear mech, and finally a brand new C-Bear Ceramic Bottom Bracket (creakless... if there is such a thing) for Shimano and other 24mm cranksets.

Comes with the handbook plus the warranty card, this hasn't be registered so you can if you want too.

Frame has been built up, and does have one paintchip on the rear driveside seatstay (pitcured) but has never been ridden.

Aasking £725 posted, first with cash gets it

Pics to follow

CLOSED MOVED TO EBAY

@mkat not sure if the fork or paintjob was the bit you were after, but worth tagging!

It's nowhere near as bad as Kirby makes out, but if Valverde, Nibali, Roglic, and Alaphillipe are with him descending the final 2 climbs for example, with all of them going balls to the wall to win their first WC, he's getting dropped.

Biggest omission from a team is Michael Matthews, was ready to go all in to help his mate and occasional training partner Richie Porte, but left out. In an interview with cyclingnews he said he hoped it was because of his ability on the longer climbs and not a misconception he doesn't work for his team

Both look to be 531 variations not 753 though... would be a steal otherwise

Which is funny... because Rick Delaney said he'd fund the team for the first 4 years

Andy Fenn's wife was also alluding to the fact that the riders found out that they were out of a job via the twitter statement too

Then after announcing a deal with Verandas Willems Crelans when no pen was put to paper, they were getting pissy when it didn't go through.

And finally just the general anger at cycling for not getting invites to big races when few of their results over other PCT teams would warrant said invites.

All points to one thing.... shitty team management

Maybe concentrating on the track? Would allow him much more time at home I'd guess. And it's well documented how badly he wants an Olympic gold.

@andyp I did say it was a good fit... Di Data seem to be lacking in the recruitment department, Brian Smith did a lot up until the signing of Cav it seems, but since then, the team hasn't got anyone new or exciting in, and anyone the did show promise is on the way out. Hoping Valgren changes that as he's a top bloke by all accounts.

Dimension Data needs WT points and have £££, Kreuziger presumably wants £££ and maybe leadership, and has WT points... good fit. Same with Valgren.

Rumor is Cav is retiring. Seems like quite the family man these days, so wouldn't surprise me to be honest.

"When I'm doing my 6th Yoga session of the day, I really connect with Ron, he's there, but not there, you know what I mean?...."

Hahaa, eventually they'll realise the team is perpetual also-rans, barely gets in breaks and gets minimal marketing coverage

Because they're the UCI and they've got to remind people they have some sort of power.

It's just Sunweb these days, was Giant-Alpecin for a while but Giant and Shimano have basically been slowly pulling out off the team, which is no bad thing, as the latter work with Lotto NL Jumbo closely now, and Sunweb have committed long term.

In terms of licenses they want to get it down to 16 by 2020 (i'm fairly sure that's the number, and it's currently 18. At a guess, Cannondale will eventually be unable to fund themselves and then maybe Dimension Data? It's become clear that the latter really lack strength in depth.

Did lol

There's stories of Luke Rowe offering Terpstra out a few years back during the classics season off the course and away from the cameras and directors. If he is actually that type of guy, I can't understand him letting Moscon do something so detrimental

Yeah, if you wan't correct pronunciations for things, Rob Hatch is by far and away the best

from the man himself, it's closest to Skweench

Has been both, in 2015 he was calling for Sagan's contract to be retrospectively reduced due to lack of results.

Then he hated Contador and basically said he wasn't as good as Froome in 2016

Quickstep occasionally hang back until the final km, and then hoon it with four riders who block off the lead train at the time. This probably wasn't the stage to do it mind, but Bora were making sure the pace was very high

Very much this... Hansen is right about a lot of things, but not on this. There's been multiple times that Sagan has been able to get over hills/mountains with a front group, and Gaviria hasn't.

That first bit, I can agree with. I'll still watch and enjoy sport, but I have fully checked out when it comes to believing it's credibility.

I'll also agree with the fact that testing has come on leaps and bounds, but I honestly believe that Sky are far worse than any of their competitors, and utilise a much more systematic approach to doping, or as you put it, taking advantage of the grey areas.

Fundamentally disagree with the "if you don't accept WADA and the UCI are doing their jobs, you need to provide evidence" (otherwise you're an irrational bandwagonner) statement

Time and time again WADA and the UCI have proved they're incapable of catching and prosecuting dopers, multiple doctors and testers have all echoed this sentiment, if you're saying those that believe we should now trust them despite years of incompetence just because we can't provide evidence of doing it this time, well.... who sounds irrational now?

Sky have continually lied, and wormed their way out of sticky situations, remember that Henao study? Well that funnily enough hasn't appeared. Records for the infamous jiffy bag? funnily enough never appeared.

Honestly, I find it fucking laughable that anyone who thinks WADA and the UCI are doing their jobs IS rational.

Tl.dr for the UCI press release:
Trust us, it's OK, we're not gonna tell you who or what told us, but trust, Ok?

Apart from in weight, stiffness and price?