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Cheers for that.
Will be a road frame, 853, not sure on wishbone stays, may go for summat more traditional. Thinking a pretty basic build, Rival groupset, mavic op, easton or bontrager bits, nowt fancy, just a frame that fits to thrash around the peaks.
Just waiting for some cash to come through then will give Matt a call and venture south for a fitting and a brew.

Really like your build. Good looking bike (except saddle, but comfort does out weigh aesthetic), the talbot builds I've seen on here are really swaying me to give Matt a call. Just to be a boring sad twat, any idea what the finished weight is?

Looks real nice. Wasn't sure about the black/blue when you started, but it's a grower. Particularly that bar tape. Now ready for the oncoming shitty weather. Enjoy.

Don't ride in jeans, if you don't do lycra try Endura Humvees, awesome shorts.

Also Ship Inn at Wincle not too far off route, good food and some guest ales.

Or a good Westons.

Ah well, keep yer head down, and keep pedalling.

Sounds like a nice run out, not far from me in Congleton. Could do with a geared bike as them hills a bit too much for 48x16. Hope the weather holds.

Nice build. Love black Surlys, currently putting a steamroller together meself. Then the day one can sit in the garage for a rest.

Currently thoughts drifting between Mercian, Talbot, Oak, Feather. Which builder to choose. Oh, then reality hits, just as I'm deciding on which wheels to have built, still need to sell that fookin narrow boat before I can get another bike. Ah well at work/home now. Ah, cup of tea and a fag.

Like the look of that Fasih, nice. Why no front mudguard though?

Whoever you are, wherever you are, please post more of your initial impressions.

Ok. I will.

You wanna get your head out of your arse and ride the fookin thing.

That directed my way scoble?

New brother swift looks like tf dart? Nowt wrong with that though.

Cheers CB. My mouth ain't that purty, come to think of it none of me is that pretty. See you in the adults pool soon.

no probs, glad you got sorted.

Have been a voyeur for a while now, thought it was about time to register. i enjoy the witty banter you boys have with each other, makes the lads at work look like southern nancies, oops just realised what the l in lfgss stands for, better than snfgss i suppose.

Hi J Dennis, Have unused mavic open sports on black formula hubs built up by parker international. Paid £150 for them, never fitted to my bike. they are black with machined side walls. only just registered so don't know if pm will work, you can text me if you like on 07411 488395.

afternoon all. absolutely love this build and thread. its really given me a surly itch that i'm trying desperately not to scratch. no will power you see, so will probably own one soon. well done sir.