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Hi, has anyone had any experience building a wheel with Espresso deep section rims?

I'm trying to find an accurate ERD measurement.

If anyone is selling a set of these, please let me know, cheers!

Oops, I should have posted this in the "wanted" section, I missed that, sorry.

Looking for these 10 speed shifters for a restomod project.

Here is another new lightweight forged quill stem similar to the SR stem mentioned in a previous post
http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-stem-hole-in/
248 grams for an 80 mm stem.

This was my other solution, the lightest quill stem you can buy today - from Aliexpress.

174 grams for a 31.8mm H/bar and 100mm long quill stem is among the lightest ever produced.

The stem is an UNO stem with ti bolts which weighs 95 grams, it is fitted to a quill adapter which is designed for kids' balance bikes but sold online as a normal quill adapter. The standard product only weighs 93 grams but with an M8 x 100mm ti bolt it weighs 80 grams.
I also bought a 31.8-26 mm handlebar shim made of UD carbon, I tailored that to fit the stem with a Dremel which adds about 9 grams.

The adapter is so short it should only be used for slammed stems, there is only 60 mm that can be instered into the fork steerer.

To be honest I'd be a bit worried to fit the set up, it's probably strong enough but I have doubts.

I finally found what I was looking for but had to pay a bit more (€77)

It is a 3T Pro Titanium stem in very good condition. The draw bolt is titanium and not Ergal (Al7075) it weighs 199 grams or 196 grams after I replaced the h/bar clamp bolt with a titanium one.

It measures 120 mm long which is probably a bit too long for me, if anyone would like to swap their 100 mm equivalent stem for mine, let me know.

If anyone has the same fork with a 23 cm+ long 1" steerer, please contact me, I'm on the hunt for a full carbon LOOK HSC-2 or HSC-3 fork.

René Herse was making ahead stems, decades before it became the standard

Actually the stem was used on tandems for the rear passenger in the 50s

Interesting that you should mention René Herse quill stems, there's one for sale near where I live in Paris. I can go and pick it up for someone if they can afford it.
https://www.leboncoin.fr/velos/1949660431.htm?ac=103546619

The Litespeed Ti-stem is good looking, it's a bit conical in shape like the Cinelli Grammo

Makes you wonder how this existed so long ago and current quill stems are mostly over 100 grams heavier. What happened to progress?

This one is surprising, 1970s style and around 210 grams
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=34f0b8c9-ecd0-482a-8078-d465a1c26ef8

One is for sale on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/391954710911

Wow, so many!
Droool!

Are they yours?
The second one up from the bottom looks my size but I'm guessing that they are investments though, out of my price range, right?

Another lightweight alloy stem that I had never heard of, Icon, it weighs just 225 grams and has a distinctive looking clamp system.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174717736377?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&toolid=10001

I thought that WR Compositi quill stems were impossible to find and then one appears in the UK, in my size and I can 't afford it!
Aaargh!!!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324421703598?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&toolid=10001

120mm = 180 grams

Are there any bike shop owners here?

It looks like they sell NOS here: https://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/3T-Pro-Titanium-Stem-1680p10778.htm

I wonder how much a 3T Pro-Ti stem would cost before mark-up and after.

Shame this is way too long (140mm)
What is their weight?

This traditional forged aluminium stem just makes it into the sub 250 gram category (with titanium screws):

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=BD070DF6-9F75-4F81-98A7-F5420E1E49DF&Enum=102&AbsPos=99

222 grams for a 120mm Cinelli Frog stem
Probably a bit too chunky looking for an 80s Peugeot

Looks just right on this oversized tube Cannondale

EDIT: Updated information, this stem weighs closer to 270 grams

I suspect this Dean titanium stem might also have been a bit flexi, it weighs just 158 grams for a 110mm stem
https://sheldonbrown.com/rinard/weights.htm#stems

Here's another lightweight steel stem 227 grams for 90mm

https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/mt-n-o-s-stem-sintesi-n-o-s-saddle-by-selle-italia.263387/

The Krystal looks quite puny next to its competitors

The stem tube of the Krystal does seem quite dainty compared to the Grammo, that's why I like the look of it.
I mostly ride my Peugeot with a 105mm Cinelli XA stem and a Scott Foil with a Vision Metron 5D combo bar and stem, I wonder how the Krystal would compare with 80s and 20teenies tech.
I already have the Ti-classics draw bolt, it saves 15-20 grams.
Funny you should mention the WR Compositi stem, I just came across it a few moments ago, that would actually look perfect on my build, it's going to be matte carbon, gloss black and shiny metal.

It's going to be a challenge to locate and afford one of these quill stems. I'm curious to know how much they weigh, should be in Ti-quill territory.

Their ahead stems are more available but they are too heavy for my build at 150 grams (120mm). I am considering the quill adapter route but to match those titanium quill stems' weight, I need a stem that weighs below 100 grams. Most good looking clamp on stems are are >140 grams . The lighter ones have less attractive bolts and lumps everywhere.

Edit: weight = 164 grams according to this list: https://sheldonbrown.com/rinard/weights.htm#stems

That is my perfect stem if I can get hold of one

Another stem I had never heard of.
200 grams apparently
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fillet-Brazed-Racing-Paletti-Panto-Road-Bike-1-Quill-Stem-110mm/333870695327?hash=item4dbc3e839f:g:~rgAAOSwZ1RgEaWJ