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I mean, sure, but I'm quite happy to wait with Owen on lead until he clocks us and just pops Barry on lead. This is what I proposed, and to which his response was basically 'no, that's unfair on Barry'. I'm not entirely sure what the phonecall would do to change his position....

He should have Barry on lead until he's a decent distance from the park entrance.

Anyway, I do appreciate I could be more pragmatic, but it is just so annoying. I would be mortified if Owen was doing this, he'd be in a muzzle immediately, I'd be seeking help from trainers/behaviourists and I'd be beyond apologetic to the target of his aggression. To be told that it's unfair on Barry to put him on a lead when they see us in the park and we need to find another solution is boiling my piss. As you can tell.

Anyway, rant over, thanks for listening.

We have a 3 month old and my wife often walks Owen in the day with the baby. It has to be flexible around naps and whatever other randomness the baby throws at her. She can't commit to a rota and doesn't want to have to be messaging cuntyboy every time she wants to take Owen for a walk. Seriously, is it that unreasonable to expect owner of weirdly aggressive dog to put him on a lead when he sees the dog he is seemingly obsessively aggressive towards?

We could do, but I really do resent the idea that he won't just agree to put his dog on a lead when he sees us. It's not a case of 'our dogs don't get on, maybe best if we avoid each other' - Owen has never shown any aggression towards or interest in Barry. I really want him to accept that as the owner of the ridiculously aggressive dog he has a responsibility to keep it under control. I appreciate that your suggestion is more practical and I should probably just take the path of least resistance.

But I think I want to wrestle now.

It does seem like it's going this way. I reckon I've got this.

When Barry is 'attacking' which is all he wants to do when he see's Owen, there is absolutely no possibility of recall.

He should be, but who knows.

Yes, but I prefer this one.

Gorgeous!

Owen's best mates are a st bernard, a swiss sheperd and a rotty cross. They make quite the gang of oversized teenage idiots. Even when they've all been roughhousing, Barry has had no qualms about just charging into the midst to try and get at Owen. I reckon he'd take the lot of them if it came to it... 🐻

So much this. I offered exactly that as the easiest solution, but he came back with "that won't be possible, it would be unfair on Barry" - WTF. He's had him on lead every time I've seen him recently. I think he's just one of those barely-socialised humans who simmers with rage at any perceived slight or confrontation. I've been really clear that there's no blame here etc, we just need to find some reasonable accommodations. Still, at least I have the image of his graceless rugby tackle of a frothing teddy bear to keep me warm.

I have a fluted window that the vac struggles with, but a dry cloth will very quickly wipe it down and then squeezed down the sink achieves the same result.....

Cheers. (Owen is my dog, btw, Barry is the cunt).

For clarity, Barry is not just being a nobhead and over enthusiastic (Owen has had his moments in that regard with other dogs for sure), Barry is genuinely monomaniacally obsessed with and aggressive towards Owen. Whenever he catches sight of him he is instantly growling, barking, frothing and dragging at the lead to get at him. It's insane. I've never seen a dog have as consistent or intense a reaction as this. I totally get that it must be stressful for his owners as well, but they are rapidly losing any goodwill I might have had towards them. The tricky thing is, the park we seem to always overlap in is the most convenient park for me and where Owen has lots of mates. Otherwise I'd just go elsewhere.

Follow-up/rant here - it has happened three times in the past few days, yesterday Bazza was on lead when we entered the park (which, tbf, has been the case most times I've seen him recently, so thought they'd reached the only reasonable conclusion - being 'I should control my rabid teddybear of a dog') - I let Owen off to play with some friends he met and before I know it in comes Barry steaming after Owen. His owner doesn't recognise me and starts saying "that's Owen isn't it, don't worry, just leave them, I'll get mine when I can but it would be good to see what happens" - to which I tell him in fairly colourful terms to get control of his dog now and we will not be 'seeing what happens'. He performs a frankly impressive (and hilarious) rugby tackle of the tiny cunty stuffed-toy and off he drags him, still frothing and barking at Owen, who comes and hides between my legs (a truly ridiculous/pathetic sight if you can picture Owen). Next day, our walks overlap again and Barry is on lead again. Fine. Owen goes offlead to play with a mate and does, unfortunately, run in the general direction of Barry (who is stood with a load of other little dogs, Owen can't resist a dog-gathering). Owen never gets more than 10m from them, before veering off to play with some other dogs. I'm walking after, mildly embarrassed at his lack of recall, but knowing I'll soon have him on. Then, I hear a sudden shout and Barry seems to have burst free from his owner and is hooning straight towards Owen again. His owner, again, starts shouting 'don't put yours on, it will be easier if they're both off' which is just bollocks, and ignores the fact that Owen is almost always submissive and have previously laid down in the face of a Barry onslaught, with me only just reaching in time to grab Barry before he could do whatever his twisted mind was dreaming of. I, again, told him to fuck off and get his dog under control. At this point I said we needed to have a chat about this, and he shouted his address at me as he left. I popped round later, but no-one was in so I put a card through with my number on, asking him to call. He sent a message, just saying he received the card but was busy till Sunday. I then sent a message back saying thank you and would be happy to speak then. BUT, it then happened again this morning, Barry comes steaming over but I had Owen on lead so just grabbed him, dangling him away from Owen who was getting visibly stressed, understandably. Owner didn't say anything and looked exasperated. I got home absolutely fuming but managed to write a reasonably composed message explaining why I was anxious about this (Owen's a puppy, we have a 3 month old so have put loads of training into keeping him calm and not aggressive, these incidents have often caused a pronounced stress response lasting days and our last trainer - big lad, ex international rugby player - has a massive scar on his chest from his welsh terrier, so we know they can do damage) and asking what he thought we could do. He sent a message back saying there was a lot to take in and he'd have a think. I said if we could agree that Barry would be on-lead when they saw Owen in the park and he wouldn't start with all the 'let them sort it out', 'leave Owen off lead' nonsense that would be a really good start. He responded that keeping Barry on lead isn't an option and would be unfair on him. Absolutely no recognition/acknowledgment that as he has the monomaniacally aggressive dog, there is a responsibility on him to handle that. I know you're only reading my side here, but on my newborn's life, Owen has never aggressed or in any way instigated this shit with cuntyballs.

I am so close to actually losing my shit with this guy.

tldr/ Barry's a cunt and so's his owner.

edit - apologies for reply to Goats, I didn't mean to do that.

Ah man, if I were not in London with responsibilities I'd be all over this. Fucking love him. Lambent Rag in particularly.

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Hi - when you say you had trouble fitting brakes - does this include trying mini v's? And, do you have any idea of max tyre size with guards?

Cheers

The text on that website is quite something: "The Brisquetta is not just another cut of beef; it’s a carefully curated experience designed to bring the joy of barbecue to everyone"

If you're still in bangkok, this streetfood stall doing duck noodles is very high on a list of best things I've ever eaten: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yuLbtwSMsudfdkWb9

That 56% of farmland purchased by non-farmers = helipads

Yes, that's it exactly, thank you

Does anyone else remember a documentary I'm fairly sure I was shown at school, it focused on a Steiner school (or similar, with no rules) - the kids did what they wanted, could vote on whether or not teachers were reemployed each year and one boy killed a rabbit with a machete? Felt a bit like a fever dream when I tried to explain it to a friend over lunch.....

Actual lol

Had lunch at Albers in De Beauvoir on Saturday. Very much doubt there are many places doing better food at more reasonable prices. They have a very limited menu, but everything we had and saw looked wonderful and tasted better. £12 for a pork belly dish with herbed orzo. You pay more than that for a crap burger in a sports bar. Really enjoyable house wines at £6 for a good sized glass. Lovely piece of maple syrup tart for £6 for dessert. Lovely room too, and very friendly with a baby, saw other people dining with well behaved dogs. Just nice vibes.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6w7BPqLxgTBpcfuz7

Him and his brother have been quite clear that they fancy being president and it would be far from the most ridiculous bet to place at this point in time. Fucking hell.

Agree this is interesting. Did you see that the awful cunt he was out with initially is apparently a professional cricketer? He definitely had the aura of pro-sport banter lad, but interesting also to speculate wildly re links to organised betting etc....

😂 in this tough time I really hope that he's comforted by the support of a London-based cycling forum.