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Thanks bmx_fred and yay, made it into the top 50!

Just got strava so thought I'd have go at this - anti 1:08:18 (G) http://www.strava.com/activities/118613182
Is there a section for 'veterans', ie those who can still just about haul themselves around the park, but are way too confused to add a time to a list without screwing it up?

Thanks for the suggestions. Look forward to making an appearance in the spotted thread as a well lit old git gently progressing around west London on his ss genesis.

Any recommendations for commuting/city use lights? A few simple requirements:

• Fit with rubber/silicon band so can be used on various bikes without faffing
  -reasonably small
  
• bright, but not retina-burningly so
  -waterproof enough for London
  
• good (or at least predictable) battery/charge life
  
• side visibility
  
• don't turn on in your sodding bag
  
• reasonably robust
  -not cateye as they've failed me on several of the above
  

I'd always seen the flyer as mainly for tooling around town on, though I've taken mine for numerous jaunts up to 100km outside the M25 and it was great. I guess if there's a market for a fixed/ss road/audax bike this will be the place

Any thoughts on the new shaped Flyer? Personally I'm sad to see the flat top tube go.

for use with drivers of black cabs in a tone of cheery encouragement - 'keep practising the driving mate and one day you might be good enough to get a job at Addison Lee'

FC - if you split how much you looking for for the spoke cards?

http://www.anatomicshoes.com/

also worth a try

one more try. fingers crossed on formatting
Time % riders
4.00-4.15 1.1%
4.15 - 4.30 2.6
4.30 - 4.45 5.2
4.45- 5.00 7
5.00-5.15 8.7
5.15-5.30 10.2
5.30-5.45 9.6
5.45 - 6.00 9.6
6.00-6.15 8
6.15- 6.30 8.1
6.30-6.45 6.2
6.45 - 7.00 5.2
7.00 - 7.15 4.2
7.15 - 7.30 4
7.30- 7.45 3.3
7.45- 8.00 2.1
8.00 - 8.15 1.9
8.15 - 8.30 1.5
8.30 - 8.45 0.7
8.45 + 0.7

oh, and excel doesn't work, so that's a fail alround

I know, I know, too much time on my hands and only people on bikeradar really care anyway

 [FONT=Calibri]Times[/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]% Finishers[/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          4.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          4.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   1.1 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          4.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          4.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   2.6 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          4.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          4.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   5.2 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          4.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          5.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   7.0 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          5.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          5.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   8.7 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          5.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          5.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                10.2 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          5.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          5.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   9.6 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          5.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          6.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   9.6 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          6.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          6.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   8.0 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          6.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          6.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   8.1 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          6.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          6.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   6.2 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          6.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          7.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   5.2 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          7.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          7.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   4.2 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          7.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          7.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   4.0 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          7.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          7.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   3.3 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          7.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          8.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   2.1 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          8.00 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          8.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   1.9 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          8.15 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          8.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   1.5 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          8.30 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]          8.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   0.7 [/FONT]    [FONT=Calibri]          8.45 [/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]+[/FONT]  [FONT=Calibri]                   0.7 [/FONT]

/\ top tip, stick a hairnet over your helmet, which I've done ever since being stung in similar circumstances. It looks slightly less ridiculous than you might think and keeps those pesky bees/wasps out of helmet vents

/\ /\ yes, and Heinz chunky vegetable soup

It's coming up for lunchtime, is there a way to disable this thread temporarily while I munch on my sandwich?

No, semi posh one in Lincs. Maybe it was the same bloke doing the same thing again, I recall he left the school not long afterwards.

School trip, steaming hot day on a coach. Fellow pupil a few seats in front touching cloth, but too timid to ask the coach to stop. In what must have seemed like a great idea he decides to take a discrete crap, hoping no-one will notice. To compound this awful idea, looks around for a suitable container and decides an empty crisp packet should fit the bill nicely. Moments late the coach is filled with the foulest stench imaginable. While a crisp packet holds a reasonable portion of salty snacks, I now know that you can't get a more than a fairly small turd into one. he managed to cover himself, trousers, hair for Christ sake and the plush coach seat in shit. to neatly tie this anecdote in with the theme of the thread, if there is someone out there who thinks you can have an unnoticed shit into a crisp packet on a hot crowded school coach, there is a potential market for a second hand foffa at £500

Just trying to get my head around the magnitude of the achievement of doing 518 miles in 24 hrs without the use of a car or airplane. That's like 26 RP three lap challenges at 56 mins each. Even allowing for my dodgy maths I'm speechless with admiration.

Edvald Boasson Hagen, what a great name. I wish my parents had called me Edvald Boasson Hagen

Thanks for the car rack advice guys. No tow bar, will investigate saris bones.

Can anyone recommend a good car rack? Obv it has to fit the car, but beyond that any ones that are good and anything to look out for? in particular looking for one that doesn't require half an hour and a degree in mechanical engineering to attach.

In Wandsworth.

Just asked in a couple of LBSs about cycle training. Admittedly a very small sample but neither seemed that clued up. One finally suggested I try the local council, fair enough, I suppose the other didn't offer any suggestions. I can't help thinking that if LBSs were more clued up (and even if they could not bring themselves to recommend it at least had a couple of leaflets) that it would encourage more people to take it up. Go on trainers, go and talk to the LBSs.

If you want puncture protection you can also help yourself by keeping whatever tyres you choose properly inflated and regularly digging out bits of glass and flint that would otherwise knacker them in time.

armadillos