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Yes, threading is correct. The Campy BB manual mentions that an increase in axle pin rotation friction may be due to a deformed BB cage or the supports not being axial. They suggest to reduce the torque setting at 30 Nm (instead of 70). The thing is that if the BB shell was deformed I should not have been able to install the Token BB... I had no friction with that one.
I guess that when fully screwing the left cup I apply too much force on the bearings (the Campy BB is not a closed system, reason why I first bought the Token) and thus get friction.
Not a huge problem, I just hope that the left cup will not unscrew with time. Will see.Cheers
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They provide the exact same excuses to everyone, whatever the period of the year you order.
For those who bought/ordered a Pelizzoli frame, be very careful with the painting. While installing the bottom bracket I slightly ripped and hit (not very hard) the frame with the wrench. A piece of painting is gone already... I guess there will be many others soon.
I got some issues with the BB. I first installed a Token (Campagnolo compatible), but the clearance between arm crank and chainstay on the non drive side was less than 1mm. Was not big fan of that, so I changed it for a Campagnolo record pista. Clearance is slightly better, but I can't fully screw the left cup or the BB do not spin freely anymore. First experience with a Campagnolo BB, I never had that before. Is that normal?
Cheers
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Calm down ;-) I am sure you will get your frame at the end of this very painful process.
Once I received the geometry and agreed on it, it took about another month to have the frame ready. I never received any photo during the welding process (I know some customers got pictures of that in the past). If you asked for a custom paint job, then you will probably have to wait longer.
Anyway, anyone thinking to order a Pelizzoli should be aware of all of this!
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I don't think the frames are now made in China. It is a small family business and the father was the frame builder. He is getting old, and it seems that the sons are now welding/painting, with apparently less expertise.
I do not have much problems waiting a few months for a hand made frame, but I would expect the company telling me the truth about the delays, and replying to my emails the same way they replied before I paid. That is the most annoying thing to me. You paid, so wait and keep your mouth shut.
Looking very very close, there are some minor paint job flaws, but nothing really bad.
Here is a photo of the bike, just built this afternoon. First test ride tomorrow :-)
Cheers
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Short update.
I finally got my frame after about 5 months ½ (instead of 8 weeks), and very poor communication. Positive: frame was extremely well packed, and the bike looks quite beautiful (not fully built as yet, I am waiting components). Negative: the left rear dropout was too small to accommodate the wheel axle (9.30 mm, axle 10 mm), so I had to file the drop out to be able to install the wheel. Poor quality control apparently. Will see how the bike behaves when built. By the way they also told me that they moved to another location (hence all the delays), but the photo of the bike they sent me was taken exactly at the same place as all the Pelizzoli frames I have seen on the net for months… -
Hi,
I am irregularly surfing on the forum for a few years and now have a good reason to join a discussion. I am exactly in the same situation as ulooking, and I understand that he is getting pissed.
I ordered a Pelizzoli frame about 10 weeks ago. Delivery time for that frame is 8 weeks according to the documentation they sent. Communication was great until I paid the deposit (500 Euros). Things went pretty wrong from that date. After I asked twice, they finally confirmed that my money arrived and promised an “order confirmation” for the next day, which I never received. In the same emails I asked which headset they would recommend for the frame I ordered, they never replied. I asked them about delivery time, no reply. Since I have seen that customers usually receive photos of their frame in production (not my case) I began to worry about a major delay. Now I really feel upset by this lack of communication. I have no major problem with delays and I can understand that people are busy, but it is a matter of respect for the customer to at least keep her/him informed. What I really find the most disappointing is that before getting the money they are very fast to reply. I can’t believe that they suddenly became extremely busy just after having received my order. Once they get your money they just do not care anymore.
One week ago, tired of not getting any reply, I sent them an email a bit more strident explaining my point of view and asking again for an answer to my very basic questions (headset/delivery time). The lady who is "communicating" with customers told me that she was at a party (email sent by iphone) and would reply the next day. She never did... Maybe she is still dancing.
I sent an email yesterday asking for my money back arguing that I have no guarantee to receive that bike one day. Will see what will happen, but whatever happens I will never order a bike with them again.
Cheers
Only thing we can do is to spread the word so nobody order these bikes anymore. The way they treat customers is just not acceptable and it seems getting even worse... One year and two months waiting (HeHz), come on.
I am riding mine for some weeks now, after having had some issues with BB. To be honest I must say I love it, although I would prefer not seeing Pelizzoli written on it ;-)
Geometry is great, very tight as I wanted, bike is very stiff. Painting is poor quality and quite fragile unfortunately.
Anyway there are probably hundreds of more reliable welders over the world. So avoid Pelizzoli like the plague.