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Actually I'm satisfied after having tested my one on track. I'm sure that aluminium and
carbon are better even if I did never test them on track. In any case, racers of the past
had excellent result on steel bikes; anyhow progress went on and new material came
out for improving racers performances and builders' wallets.
Just for info, my Pelizzoli has also oversized tubes, needed especially in consideration
of the big size.
Finally, I'm not good enough on track for having the need of alu or carbon. I would still
be slow.

Wait, I think there were ALAN frames when Bugno was still riding his trike to kindergarden.

No doubt. Alan has always been one step ahead. Bugno frame was "one of the first" but not THE first.

Very golf choice! Visiting Giovanni' factory is a real esperienze.
And you will see there an original San cristobal among many other bikes and pictures of old pro including bugno winning an italian championship with one of the first aluminium frame aver built

is that white one yours, emtra?

Yes. That's mine.

White pearl with chrome plated lugs +
rear triangle

@ metrocammell: sorry for not replying but I'm still not allowed to send mails.

I'm plenty of pictures both of the frame and of the assembled bike (with Campagnolo Super Record and "Sheriff" hubs), but I promised to Ale to do not post until he will release the web site.
On the other hand, I think he will send you at least a picture of the frame if you will ask him.

Ciao
sorry to get suddenly inside this topic with my first message, but I thought it right
to write down a short review that might be useful for you.
I'm the owner of the first "new" Pelizzoli track frame coming out from
Giovanni' welding pipe. Just by chance I got in touch with Ale a couple
of month ago, looking for an old frame. Being hard for me to find the
right measure (I'm 192 cm tall), Ale proposed me the option of getting
a Pelizzoli frame. Knowing that Giovanni Pelizzoli is Ciocc, I called Ale
directly and I fixed a meeting in Giovanni' site, where I had the chance
of meeting him, getting involved inside an amazing "time travel" experience.
riding me along 50 years of cycling history (you can imagine how many tales
and experiences are coming from Giovanni). Meanwhile he got my measurement
and we briefly discussed about the frame. I have to admit that, during the
following weeks, I changed often ideas about geometry, colours, finishing
and so on, and Ale was always really kind and available in fullfilling my expectations,
acting as an "interface" between me and Pelizzoli, and updating me constantly with
pictures of the different building steps.
Few days ago I collected the frame (that I left for some time to Ale in order to
make pictures for the web site), and here it is my first feedback:

frame (including fork) is really lightweight, despite of the big size, giving in
the same time the idea of being solid and stiff. Welding, lugs, painting, chrome
plating and pantograph, are perfect, like in the best Italian framebuilding tradition.
I compared it with my old Losa race frame and also got the same good feedback
from my cycling shop guy, who has, thanks to his father, a long experience in
framebuilding. Thus, I would say that the first impression is really positive.
I'm currently assembling it with a dated Campy group, and, if you want, I will
let you have a short review once I will test it in a track session, as like as I
will post some pictures upon Ale permission.

A short note to close this message: do not get involved in the "poser" idea
of getting a Ciocc branded frame. I could have easily asked to stick on the frame
Ciocc decals, getting, as a result, to give the impression of owning a new Ciocc
frame, that has nothing to do with Giovanni. Opposite, I have now a Pelizzoli
frame, made directly by Ciocc himself, and, believe me, for those who really
knows cycling history, this issue is really giving "street cred" (I hate this expression
that I prefer to leave to gangs of rappers, but I read it on this topic and I report
it like it is).
If anyone has questions, I'll be glad to provide you any answer.