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You and I do this.
It's all the same to you and me.
If taking the other person out of the sentence leaving the I or me doesn't make the sentence sound wrong then what you said is right or less wronger.

What with that ass?

[QUOTE=TS;2280480]Meh... I know that's a half-assed attempt at trolling, however...

Full-assed actually.

^ What, pray tell, are the coppers supposed to do about it. What goes on inside the building now is the business of the owners. It is private property after all. Is leering an offence?

Here is my Pashley

Wankers on bikes riding the FOOTpaths in the forests round here as though walkers are trespassing.

Tiswas,
I have been dealing with the aftermath of collisions for almost 29 years involving pedestrians, cyclists, all manner of motor vehicles and in one case a First Great Western HST and a parked car at Ufton Nervert. You seem to have jumped up on a horse of some considerable height. My post was not aimed at cyclists but all road users. Do you know what? It's been a long day and I have now lost the will to live, you are right. Carry on.

Your post is an emotional appeal. I'm unclear as to its relevance and context.

I used logical holes as a metaphor, much as you used soapbox. If you stand on a soapbox full of holes, you fall through it.

If you are unclear as to its relevance and context then how can you detect emotion and holes in the logic. This thread is questioning whether it is cyclists that need educating. My point was in response to that. Road users can be as righteous as they like but you have a lot more to lose on two wheels or on foot than cocooned in metal.

Tiswas - explain, please.

Yes I know I'm new to this site but......
It seems to me that people in general think they know their rights and know the law. As a result they bowl along by whatever means they choose and then get all bent out of shape because someone else broke the 'law' or transgressed the unwritten rule. If you choose to be on the inside of a turning vehicle or have that position thrust upon you then no amount of bitching and whingeing is going to mend your bike or bones. Take some responsibility for your own and other's safety and realise that riding like the tortoise and not the hare may actually be less stressful for everybody.
Soap-box vacated.

Even the cops are out to make money.

Did you get one? If you did I'd like to know how you got on. I've just acquired a Postie's bike and I need some help. Got to do three entries before I can post for myself my own threadage. Cheers.

Do you have a counter claim for your injuries/damage. His claim sounds like it has been bumped up by car hire included a common scam these days.

I've just acquired a Postie's bike and I need some help. Got to do three entries before I can post for myself. Cheers.