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Right, there are a couple of different issues here, I'll keep its short or I'll end up ranting for weeks, this is by far not a comprehensive list of all things that go on there.

OO branded products are cheap because they made cheaply. The early Inbred (26 & 29) had notoriously thin paint because suppliers original prices wouldn't be met, this led to rust marks under the gussets straight out of the box & the 853 frames rusted through at the seat stay wishbone. They also go through minimal revisions, known errors or problems are addressed when its economical to do so, not every year or even ever repeat order like many other companies. Its also economies of scale, smaller companies cannot afford to order the volume that OO can and hence get a higher supply price.

A chunk of none OO branded products are grey imports from the EU, this was most evident when a shipment of brakes turned up and were all the wrong (EU) way round. Actually this was most evident when I gave the go-ahead to order them. Some are even used products, case in point: the RS SID world cup forks that came with cut carbon steerers, crown races fitted and in non standard colours. Interestingly a number of suppliers and distributors will not service or warranty any grey imports.

OO saves money in the general company by missing out the middle man in shops and using Netto style "stock them high / sell them cheap" policies. They also save money by making everyone self employed which means no sick / holiday pay, no tax / national insurance no workers rights and in my case no pay for the last 2 weeks I worked there because "I didn't do anything" despite many customer emails & packed boxes to the contrary. While I worked there, we didn't even have enough desks let alone enough computers (I was told to bring my own from home). They also treat their staff like poop knowing that there will be another eager but naive person who'll jump at the opportunity to work in the bike industry.

What annoys me most (other than not being paid) is that people bum them to high heaven but any other company with similar business and working practices (Tesco comes to mind) is shouted down.

I doubt Brant / Shedfire / Ragley / CRC are concerned with sales of 50 units, they have much bigger projects to be dealing with, OO used to order double that quantity per size each time.

I could however recreate a pomp perfectly, with added polo tweaks, if anyone wants more info PM me.

I'll reply when I get home...

Chris knows me and I'll happily echo all of Craig's comments and more.

I'm now out of stickers. No more new requests

Right, everyone who has PMd me has been sent some stickers today

Everyone who has PMd me but not given me their address, you haven't had anything posted

and everyone who has PMd Chris or PMd someone else then clearly you also have not had anything posted

Flippin' 'eck, you lot are hard work.

If you have sent me (not Chris, he's a different person) a PM I'll post you some out.

Oi! less of your lip, Yorkshire > Everywhere

Joni, I got your PM so I'll fire a load down to you and anyone else who has already sent me their details.

cheers guys

good idea but I know not of this Jono nor their address

I have loads of SoYo Polo Co stickers to give away.

You can see them here http://www.facebook.com/soyopoloco

PM me your name & address and I'll get 3 in the post for you, just say if you want more.

I think the chain might give it away

Still a nice bash guard to, I got all excited when I saw the Spot logo, I thought it was part of a belt drive setup being that Spot do a couple of belt drive frames and I've been wanting to build my own for ages.

Er, that isn't a Salsa bash rings its a Spot brand one. Two very different companies and both have them for sale on their websites so not that rare at all.

Spot brand bash guard
http://spotbrand.com/bikes/product-page/guards/

Salsa bash guards
http://salsacycles.com/components/category/chainrings/

Shit, my brother in law is from Frankston. Though he's now moving to to the peninsula I think

I was selling those for 50p when i worked there

JOL, you got an email address?

nny, I love Brisbane, I spent roughly 6 weeks there a couple of years back and would happily visit but we only have 10 days in Oz and have to visit the girlfriend's sister so we're limited to Melbourne really.

Otto, got your PM thanks.

where abouts you going to be in NZ? we're heading all over but should be meeting up with the Christchurch guys and checking in at the singlespeed world champs

Max, cheers for the email, I'll drop them a line now.

Hi, I'm off to Japan, New Zealand & Australia in a couple of weeks and fancied playing a bit of international polo while i'm out there.

I've emailed all the guys I could find with sites & blogs in Tokyo, Christchurch, Wellington, Auckland & Melbourne but so far only had a reply from the Christchurch guys.

Don't suppose anyone here has any contacts I could tap up do they?

cheers

pics?

I thought I had the lowest but it would seem not.

39/20 (52.2gi) fixed - MA3K 700x28
39/20 (51.6gi) freewheel - hurricanejosh 26x2.3
42/22 (50.4gi) freewheel - Dan
42/22 (50.0gi) fixed - Crack Fox
40/22 (48.0gi) freewheel - teenslain 700x25
32/18 (47.6gi) Freewheel- Wooodrow 700x28
42/24 (47.2gi) fixed - John H 700x32" 170mm
32/18 (46.8gi) fixed - moog
40/23 (46.5gi) fixed - Lebowski 700x28, 165
22/13 (45.3gi) fixed- chucklebruv 700x28 175mm
34/20 (44.7gi) fixed - Gabriel
35/21 (44.6gi) freewheel - GrowUp 700x28
34/19 (44.5gi) freewheeel - prav 26x1.5
34/22 (44.5gi) freewheel - Aidan (turd) 700x35 165
32/19 (44.3gi) freewheel - Eingang - 700x28 - 175mm
34/21 (44.2gi) Fixed - Pip 700x38
24/14 (44.1gi) fixed - MA3K 26x1.9
34/21 (43.7gi) Fixed - Cohen
32/20 (43.5gi) freewheel - Cam 700x35/175mm
32/20 (43.5gi) freewheel - emab 700x35, 170mm
35/22 (43.5gi) freewheel - Jono 700x38, 165mm
33/20 (43.4gi) fixed - bbq tom
33/20 (43.4gi) Fixed - SuperLuca 700x23
33/20 (43.4gi) Freewheel - Mike 700x28, 160mm
33/20 (43.4gi) Freewheel - Ali
30/19 (43.1gi) fixed - horatio 700x38
36/22 (43.0gi) fixed - Mrlemon
36/22 (43.0gi) freewheel - M A X
36/22 (43.0gi) fixed - Wicksie 700x23
32/20 (42.8gi) fixed - tigeruppercut 700x28 170mm
35/22 (42.6gi) fixed - tomasito
34/21 (42.6gi) fixed - playswellwithotters
32/20 (42.1gi) freewheel - alockett
34/22 (42.0gi) freewheel - snoop
35/22 (41.8gi) fixed - gormley
35/22 (41.8gi) freewheel - sol
35/22 (41.8gi) freewheel - Dr Chan
35/22 (41.8gi) fixed - slamm
34/22 (41.7gi) freewheel - Rik
34/22 (41.7gi) freewheel - Todd
29/19 (41.5gi) freewheel - PiQuE (700 x 35/ 170mm)
28/19 (41.0gi) freewheel - cani
26/17 (40.9gi) fixed - khornight 700x28 165mm
34/22 (40.8gi) fixed - Shinscar 700x25 155mm
32/21 (40.2gi) freewheel - voidcore 26x2.4
30/20 (40.1gi) freewheel - hassanr
32/21 (40.1gi) freewheel - Mat
32/21 (39.5gi) freewheel - Mike 26"x2.2 175mm
36/24 (39.5gi) freewheel - skoota 700x32
32/22 (38.1gi) freewheel - gabes 26"
26/18 (38.0gi) freewheel - danwentskiing
22/16 (36.2gi) fixed - thepodge 700x23
25/18 (36.1gi) fixed - Dave H 26"
28/22 (34.6gi) fixed- lightbluejosh 700x23

that is VERY nice

Get you, shit-talking on brakes!
''Mind the fence!!!''

My brakes work perfectly well now, its only when I had them on the wrong hand that me and the fence became good buddies.

Interesting to see comments on V's, I was only saying last night how I should knock out some polo frames however that Fleet looks like an old Raleigh or something.

is that a U brake on the front too?

it makes sense to put on one the rear of the front as U brakes are generally rubbish and that placement should improve it slightly, however why not just put a decent brake on it in the first place?

little bit of fashion over function.

Cant you get them for £100 brand new?

also if the Polo specific ones aren't being put into production by him, i may know some one who will do it

I know i'm late to this thread but how are people tensioning their chains on the BMIX?

I've had 2 different styles of chain tug and they are both slipping in part due to the angled dropout

you'd get a lot more than £15 for those CODA if you popped over to the retrobike forum