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what are those bars on that dolan? Better pic of them somewhere?

http://velospace.org/files/IMG_6168smaller.jpg

(the steel bike still had modern componentry in it, the cranks, yet still it was slower. Probably would have been slower with time correct straps and clips and shoes.)

Are they trying to say something like "but, if the steel bike was lighter then it would be faster"?

But yeah the fit issue seems genuine but hard to quantify the effect on speeds & power.

The funny thing is all those steel is real ads after the article :), the magazine (checked their website) doesn't seem any less biased than some magazine hyping new carbon fibre bikes.

on overall the whole article the article seems a little sad. I don't really think they genuinely belive right sized pinarello would have done any better. Every pro tour rider is choosing new carbon because they are little twats advertising new carbon fibre bikes because companies wanna sell more bikes?

That article has been debunked by Bicycle Quarterly.

the key in point is that the steel bicycle were too small for the rider, whether the modern one fit them perfectly.

will scan in the article today.

the modern is 55 and old one 54. Dunno about the geometry on either one, but as the riders are 173cm - 184cm I find it quite hard to belive 55 fits each one of them a lot better than 54. Or is it something about the geometry? I'm not that expert on geo of old steel bikes so dunno.

Anyway, if the biggest concern is about the flex on the steel bike (and the obvious diffrence in weight) how come a bigger steel bike would made all better and flex less?

http://www.fredericgrappe.com/media/revues/manipvelo.pdf

"FROM THE OFF, there’s little doubt about which bike the riders prefer. “I had to fight the bike the whole way up the climb!” Jeannin gasps, looking rather wound up as he hands back the Pinarello. Subsequent riders get even more emotional. “It’s nil! Worth nothing! Zero!” spits Morgan Kneisky."

but yeah this article is about old steel bikes not modern ones.

the pacer frame + fork together are probably something like 3kg.

how come some companies aren't making some kind of drop bar brake lever hipster cyst with only the gripping part for brakeless drop bars?

needs nitromorse/sandblasting and powdercoat

So are bottle cages unfashionable now?

it looks like commuter bike to me as it has a straight bar, a bell and all that. I really don't think you need 2 bottles of water for that 1-20mile ride, but probably it serves some kind of function as it is there. But on the other hand this tread isnt about being functional.

isnt there one which is painted silver in their inventory?

black stem, black grips, black tires and lose the spokecards and bottle cages and def it wouldn't be anti anymore.

imo just replacing the cockpit would make it acceptable, something like f99/f139 stem and stratos/t2 airwing or carbon track drops.

The frame in my opinion is amazing.

my nelson in her latest setup:

I don't think they fit any thread better than this.

well it's good that they are taking the word fixie apart from fixed gear bikes in techical terms and molding the meaning of it into more of a description of certain style.

not bike but a part:

this with syntace stratos and black 3x open pros or something would be quite nice in my opinion

how is this porn? Just plain looking cross bike with too meny spacers to me.

^^ would look better with drops instead of that old man's handlebar.

I ride with these

Got krnky straps and bmx flats on my winter commuter.

The new maurice seems to be either total cluelesness or some kind of evil real-life-trolling.

Just put a modern ergo style bullhorn with white bartape on the BMC and it's porn. Maybe also some sturdier wheels too but those seem quite fast.

Got sealskinz but after 2 weeks of nice 10-15 celsius autumn Finland went straight to +-0 with freezing rain. They were awesome but now they are not warm enough.

saddle is (aestetically) too forward. The color is quite awful.