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I guess the top tube, faux-pro thing doesn't bother me. Which is ironic, since the thing that bothers me most about the Vigorelli, other than the colours, is the sloping top tube. If it'd been horizontal, I'd have the frame on my 'to buy' list, but as it is, just slightly sloping downwards, it somehow makes me think the whole frame is pointing skywards and it bugs me every time I see one.
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Nah, far from it. I just don't understand all the hatred toward the Mash frames. Sure a lot of them are used in ugly builds, but that's hardly exclusive to the Mash. Maybe the style and colour make it a tricker frame to build into a good looking bike, but I don't hold that against it.
A lot of what I see comes across as people ragging on it as a proxy for the Mash lot and by extension the hipster/fixie skidder lot. like they're above it. I wonder how it would be thought of if it'd just been released as the new Vigorelli with no Mash association.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here? When ppl print vinal stickers, they usually also cut them at the same time. So all you have to do is apply and peel. There's a thread about vinal cutting/decals/etc. - search for it.
I was wondering whether it was possible (from a cheap, commercial place doing a run of a couple of stickers) to (laser?) cut out the lettering so that I could have a panel with lettering that is just the paint showing through, rather than say a grey sticker with yellow printed on it.
whats with the one brake and gears?
That's the way it came. I've never ridden the bike, just put on the front wheel and took it into the back lane to take a picture in daylight.
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Looking for some advice with my current project. It's a David Lloyd lo pro made from 531c that I picked up not long ago and I think I've got the components sorted in my head and the colour, but having trouble with a couple of details.
Here is the bike not long after I got it:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4897887048_9541c1851d_b.jpg
I've added the Zipp and since gotten a rear WI eccentric Eno hub laced to a silver Open Pro for the rear. Every other component bar maybe the headset and BB (chainline depending) will go. The original paint is a pearlescent white which is quite nice, but someone has painted over it in flat white, leaving 'windows' in the paint for the stickers. The stickers are horrible and the paint needs to go. I'm thinking of a dark yellow, similar to that Merckx colour you see, but maybe in pearl. I have a set of the old style fluted Dura Ace cranks coming. It'll have silver bull horns, stem, seatpost, pedals, cailpers, hubs and cranks. Black bar tape, saddle (looking for a cheap Arione), tyres, aero levers and cables.
I'm thinking of pushing the boat out and sending it to Argos for paint and getting the forks chromed and the rear triangle up to the point where the rims end.
I'm not 100% on the chrome for the rear triangle though and I'm really struggling on what to do with frame decals. I don't like the ones on there and am not keen on any of the David Lloyd ones I've found Googling, but I think it would look better to have something, rather than a bare frame. Should I just pick a font I like and have David Lloyd text printed up? I like the idea of a very dark grey panel for the down and seat tubes with the name in yellow, but am not sure how I go about getting stickers made up and whether they could cut out the lettering or leave it clear. I assume trying to colour match lettering on a sticker to pearl paint will look gash. I like the Robin Mather style panel/lettering. Any suggestions on designs/ways to handle it/typeface or whether it would be best to leave it plain?
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Seems that my OP has vanished somehow. Here it is again...
I'm looking to clear out all the bits gathering about the flat. I'll be honest, I have no idea how much a lot of this stuff should go for, most of the pricing has either been based on what I paid or the price of similar things listed here or ebay. If anything is glaringly wrong, then let me know. I'm oop North, so all prices include postage.
Dibs followed by PM please.
Bar extensions - White, good condition though one has tape residue and will need a clean if it's not being wrapped. - £10
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4894741032_dca7d63d71_b.jpgBars - Jae-Hwa, 42cm with 14.5cm drop. 25.4mm clamping area, pretty scratched up. - £9
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4894741156_5842787481_b.jpgBars - Specialized XC 2014, 64cm. £7
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4894149399_9eb4f67d05_b.jpgSaddle - Brooks B17, brown, ok condition, but pretty old, some scuffs on the back corners. - £25
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4894741244_fc6afa8940_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4894741324_9f1df753f7_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4894741430_48bc3fec25_b.jpgSaddle - Globe Roll, as new (some dried spray underneath which will wipe off with a damp cloth). £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4894741528_62e6021d8f_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4894741638_8baa66e998_b.jpgSaddle - SMP Selle Rock, big tear, only really suitable for stripping or recovering. £6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4894741736_a6f2ed1f97_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4894741830_def16763e3_b.jpg[strike]Saddle - Selle Bassano Vuelta, 531 rails, good condition, few chips to paint on rails. - £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4894741908_cb8798e2c3_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4894147433_18d4713f07_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4894742092_e29bf5510f_b.jpg[/strike]Pedals - Old road bike pedals, spin well enough. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4894742196_f01b1f4d07_b.jpgPedals - Look Carbo Pro. £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894148977_07e8754a07_b.jpgStem - 3TTT, 80mm, paint a bit shabby around logos. £6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4894147999_370e8bb2f6_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4894742478_8d746521e6_b.jpgSeatpost - Unknown brand, 27.0mm, no min level markings, but actual post section 175mm long. - £7
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4894148095_4abfd76eb3_b.jpgBrake levers - Specialized, 32mm with 28mm shim. £12
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4894742752_c3022d5ff2_b.jpgBrake levers - Shimano BL-M600, one has the tab to hold the cable snapped, but this can be worked around by feeding the cable through a different slot under the lever. £8
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4894149161_cc92657fb3_b.jpgBrake levers - Unknown brand, come with clamps for bars, but one missing a screw. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4894744004_68dc104d90_b.jpgRear deraileur - Campagnolo Nuovo Record Pat. 73, good condition. £30
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4894148267_faf648e1bf_b.jpgChainset - Mavic, 170mm, 130BCD, 52/39t, shaimano big ring. Couple of gouges in non-driveside arm, threads and tapers good. £20
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894743242_4eb95bc863_b.jpgChainset - Drive side only, 40t, old, but doesn't look to have been used. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4894743718_0801b27a63_b.jpg[strike]Caliper - Simano Exage 500EX. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4894743342_b0bbbaa6ee_b.jpg[/strike]Shifters - Unknown brand, stem mounting. £3
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4894743450_51f28cfa19_b.jpgShifter arm - Dura Ace. £2
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4894148881_6b8f85e032_b.jpgWheelset - 700c/650c tubs. Mavic hubs, Wolber rims. 700 comes with new Conti Giro. Not sure of the model of the 700, there is no other Wolber sticker other than the Wolber letters, though it has a sticker saying handbuilt by Mercian. The 650 is a Profil 18. Hubs run super smooth, rims true. £75
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894149551_f2b6dc172d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4894149859_d236921b22_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4894149933_6df86d3222_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4894744458_a5aa266182_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4894149655_a89651ca3f_b.jpg[strike]Frame - Starnord, 62cm c-c, 62cm c-t, 57cm top tube. Comes with forks, headset, BB. French threaded BB shell. Beater frame, most braze-ons removed. Paint shabby. £15 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4894150083_d18a219f1a_b.jpg [/strike]
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I'm looking to clear out all the bits gathering about the flat. I'll be honest, I have no idea how much a lot of this stuff should go for, most of the pricing has either been based on what I paid or the price of similar things listed here or ebay. If anything is glaringly wrong, then let me know. I'm oop North, so all prices include postage.
Dibs followed by PM please.
Bar extensions - White, good condition though one has tape residue and will need a clean if it's not being wrapped. - £10
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4894741032_dca7d63d71_b.jpgBars - Jae-Hwa, 42cm with 14.5cm drop. 25.4mm clamping area, pretty scratched up. - £9
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4894741156_5842787481_b.jpgBars - Specialized XC 2014, 64cm. £7
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4894149399_9eb4f67d05_b.jpgSaddle - Brooks B17, brown, ok condition, but pretty old, some scuffs on the back corners. - £25
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4894741244_fc6afa8940_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4894741324_9f1df753f7_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4894741430_48bc3fec25_b.jpgSaddle - Globe Roll, as new (some dried spray underneath which will wipe off with a damp cloth). £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4894741528_62e6021d8f_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4894741638_8baa66e998_b.jpgSaddle - SMP Selle Rock, big tear, only really suitable for stripping or recovering. £6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4894741736_a6f2ed1f97_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4894741830_def16763e3_b.jpg[strike]Saddle - Selle Bassano Vuelta, 531 rails, good condition, few chips to paint on rails. - £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4894741908_cb8798e2c3_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4894147433_18d4713f07_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4894742092_e29bf5510f_b.jpg[/strike]Pedals - Old road bike pedals, spin well enough. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4894742196_f01b1f4d07_b.jpgPedals - Look Carbo Pro. £15
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894148977_07e8754a07_b.jpgStem - 3TTT, 80mm, paint a bit shabby around logos. £6
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4894147999_370e8bb2f6_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4894742478_8d746521e6_b.jpgSeatpost - Unknown brand, 27.0mm, no min level markings, but actual post section 175mm long. - £7
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4894148095_4abfd76eb3_b.jpgBrake levers - Specialized, 32mm with 28mm shim. £12
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4894742752_c3022d5ff2_b.jpgBrake levers - Shimano BL-M600, one has the tab to hold the cable snapped, but this can be worked around by feeding the cable through a different slot under the lever. £8
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4894149161_cc92657fb3_b.jpgBrake levers - Unknown brand, come with clamps for bars, but one missing a screw. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4894744004_68dc104d90_b.jpgRear deraileur - Campagnolo Nuovo Record Pat. 73, good condition. £30
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4894148267_faf648e1bf_b.jpgChainset - Mavic, 170mm, 130BCD, 52/39t, shaimano big ring. Couple of gouges in non-driveside arm, threads and tapers good. £20
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894743242_4eb95bc863_b.jpgChainset - Drive side only, 40t, old, but doesn't look to have been used. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4894743718_0801b27a63_b.jpg[strike]Caliper - Simano Exage 500EX. £5
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4894743342_b0bbbaa6ee_b.jpg[/strike]Shifters - Unknown brand, stem mounting. £3
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4894743450_51f28cfa19_b.jpgShifter arm - Dura Ace. £2
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4894148881_6b8f85e032_b.jpgWheelset - 700c/650c tubs. Mavic hubs, Wolber rims. 700 comes with new Conti Giro. Not sure of the model of the 700, there is no other Wolber sticker other than the Wolber letters, though it has a sticker saying handbuilt by Mercian. The 650 is a Profil 18. Hubs run super smooth, rims true. £75
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4894149551_f2b6dc172d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4894149859_d236921b22_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4894149933_6df86d3222_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4894744458_a5aa266182_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4894149655_a89651ca3f_b.jpg[strike]Frame - Starnord, 62cm c-c, 62cm c-t, 57cm top tube. Comes with forks, headset, BB. French threaded BB shell. Beater frame, most braze-ons removed. Paint shabby. £15[/strike]
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I have that exact one. £6 posted and it's yours.