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Have you seen the cheap ones on Planet x (yes, I know, but....)?

Cheers! 👍

This thread is great. Cowchippers are my favorite bar due to reach/drop/flare combo. Searching for another pair at the moment. Where did you get yours from please Hulsroy?

I would be interested in a pair of these if no one using, but suspect am too late.

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Make sure in about 2-3 years time you remove that UN55 and refit and regrease the threads. They have a habit of lasting so long by the time you come to remove, the threads have seized!

Used to happen to me with the old one piece chainsets due to knocking it into something when carrying

Wow, thats lovely

Salsa have been pretty difficult to get hold of in the UK due to stock issues and the last two distributers ISON and Raleigh dropped them quite quickly. Lyon are now the new distributer so worth an email to them to find when next stock due to come in. Keep Pedalling in Manchester seem to be able to get stock in though.
Vagabond is a bit more of a drop bar mountain bike like the Fargo and Gryphon. Good alternative would be the Soma Wolverine. Id recommend the Surly Straggler but think they have lost the plot with their low and long geometry.

Main difference is the frame/forks. Secan a different class as much more refined frame. Higher quality tubing. A lot of thought put into the design. Manufactured in europe. Secan has bigger tyre clearance which makes it more versatile. Secan has two different frame versions for each size to suit different body types. CGR 725 a much more generic lower quality gravel frame.
I dont regret paying the extra or the wait for my Secan at all. It rides better than my titanium Sonder Camino and the Kinesis Tripster ATR and Genesis CDF I had before.
I guess it comes down to price and budget in the end.

(Checks price of Arkose fork to replace the crappy Camino Ti fork again)

Salsa Vaya?

Cheers, will PM you when I have a better idea of when doing. Thanks

Great read that - cheers. Badger Divide on the list for this year :)

Oh so sounds like very much a fast MTB route rather than Gravel?

I really like the Hope Pro2/Stans crest on my Camino. Arch are a good rim as well. Can usually be picked up for c.£200 from the usual places. As always with Stans rims check no cracking around the spoke holes. Alternately WTB i21 & i23 rims would be fine.

Whichever you look at the 2019 Arkoses look a big step up from the 2018 models.

Mine was one of the first singlespeeds. Dont think they do them now. As said really rate the arkose and would choose over the dolomite. I wouldnt underestimare the benefit of bigger 40mm tyres for a commuter.

Think dolomite disc is being phased out. Reasoning being the 2019 arkose covers both bases. @jameso ? I had an Arkose singlespeed. Ace bike.

Define cheap? New or 2nd hand?

I haven't been able to break one in 60,000km

Yeah you have probably tested the brand more than anyone else 😉 (doffs cap) & one of the reasons I got mine 😀

Ah yes, thanks, have been looking for one for a while. Impossible to find..

What are those cranks please?

The 2019 Pinnacle Arkose range from Evans looks excellent for design and value

I am in too!

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