-
Retro Cannondale MTBs are like buses today it seems...
What size is it?
Ah! Knew I'd forgotten something.
Size is 'Large' in Cannondale parlance. As shown it's set up for me and I'm 5ft 11in, so I guess it will suit riders from about 5ft 9in to 6ft 2in.
Seat tube is 16.5in c-c or 18in c-t. Top tube is 22in.
-
Cannondale M800 MTB-based hybrid bike.
Built this up recently using a restored 1992/3 Cannondale M800 Beast of the East frame. It was professionally refinished by Bob Jackson in a delicious pearlescent white.
The frame is heat-treated double butted aluminium (cost a fortune back in the day) and weighs about 3lbs. It was designed as a serious mountain bike with a very high bottom bracket to clear technical trails - or high kerbs! It's in super-clean condition and is equipped with a number of NOS parts. It weighs just 22lb all-up and is pretty much bomb-proof with its tough frame and 36-spoke 26in wheels.
Use it as it is or it could easily be converted back for trail use.
A fast and tough bike in super-clean condition.
The bad bits: Rims are showing signs of wear and there's some chipped paint under the chainstay protector. And that's it.
Specification:
M800 3.0 Competition Series frame fitted with GT cromo forks and FSA headset.
Shimano LX hubs with FIR rims and stainless spokes 36/36.
Selle Italia saddle on satin silver Kore seatpost.
Bontrager bars and stem in satin silver.
Shimano Exage rear mech with 8-speed cassette.
Unknown alloy chainset with new Shimano 42t ring.
Suntour SE rear cantilevers (nos) and Tektro front V-brakes.
Avid abjustable brake levers (nos).
Gripshift gear control.
Continental Sport Contact tyres.Looking for £325.
Bike is in South Oxfordshire but I may be able to deliver to London area. Could also supply some knobbly tyres (for the snow...) instead of the semi-slicks.
-
Lovely bike with great style. Love the semi-drop bars and Chater chainset.
However, with the frame clearly showing braze-on fittings for a rear rod brake mechanism, it could hardly have been a path racer so no doubt it is indeed a 'faked-up roadster'.
Sloping top-tube frames were popular on roadsters (as well as more sporty machines) in the early 1900s and again in the 1930s. I have a machine that is very similar to the one pictured, with a sloping top-tube frame and with semi-dropped bars and 26in wheels. Mine is based on a mid- 1930s Armstrong roadster.
There's a whole load of information on early bikes on the National Cycle Museum website (sales catalogues, etc), although you may have to be a V-CC member to access this archive material. It's a useful source for identifying early machines. Yours has Raleigh forks, as stated, so it's a fair bet that the frame is a Raleigh too.
Anyway, whatever it's based on, that is one characterful and stylish machine. Good luck with the sale.
-
-
Definitely early 1950s, between 1950 and 1954. Lugs are the early-type Nervex Pro which first appeared about 1950 in Britain. Bates of London (Horace Bates, not EG Bates) relocated to Westcliff on Sea in 1954 and the badge changed from Bates of London to, surprisingly enough, Bates of Westcliff in that year. The cycle parts appear to be original.
-
-
Okay, let's get this straight - this frame was not made by a bloke called Alan. Or even for a bloke called Alan. The story goes that the name of the builder was Alfonso and his wife/sister (or maybe both?) was named Anna. The name comes from the shortened versions of their names.
By great fortune, Alfonso chose to put his name first. It would not have had quite the same cachet if the AL and the AN were transposed...
-
**Circa 1990s ALAN CORSA SUPER CARBONIO carbon-aluminium frame and forks with Campag headset. **
Frame size 60cm seat tube (61c-t) to suit riders of around 6ft.
I bought this Italian thoroughbred brand new (old stock) a few years ago. It was built up and I used it very occasionally on dry roads - I have probably covered no more than a couple of hundred miles on it. The rest of the time it has been hung on the wall as 'art'.
Not sure how old it is but it probably dates from the 1990s. I understand that the Spanish Teka cycling team used similar frames for their team bikes in the late 80s. Also, BH used ALAN frames.
ALAN is a small Italian producer famed for their 'glued and screwed' process of bonding dural or carbon tubes into alloy lugs. The very first ever carbon bike frame (a prototype built by Raleigh in 1973, I believe) was based on ALAN lugs with aerospace carbon tubes. The frame here is effectively a productionised version built by ALAN. It is extremely light for the era. The frame weighs about 1680g (good for a frame this size) and the alloy fork weighs about 520g according to my scales.
As you can see from the pictures it is in almost-as-new condition. There is one tiny mark on the down tube and also some paint has rubbed off from one of the chainstays. The carbon beneath the paint is unaffected. Also, there is some 'spidering' beneath the lacquer in a couple of places on the alloy seat-cluster and the bottom bracket. This was there before I got the frame but could easily be polished out after removing some of the lacquer from the alloy. The pictures show these imperfections. The head lugs are not affected at all and these feature typical ALAN engravings.
Overall, the condition of this frame is quite outstanding. It comes complete with a Campagnolo headset in excellent condition.
With its steep angles (74deg), its light weight and a short wheelbase it is an excellent climber. It also gives a comfortable ride.
This was a state-of-the-art and very expensive frameset in its day. Nowadays, ALAN frames are quite collectible and this is one of the rarest of them all with its airbrushed artwork. I have seen several of these ALAN Carbonio frames in bare carbon but have yet to see a similar one to this.
The price I am asking is £320. NOW SOLD
-
Maintaining an oxidised finish without it becoming pitted is best achieved by wiping with Linseed oil from time to time. A clear coat of lacquer or varnish would simply peel off.
But please, please, please don't subject your 1948 Soens to deliberate rusting.
It would be sacrilege to subject an ultra-rare hand-built 60-year old frame to this. Heck, it's lasted this long, why not try to preserve it instead of wrecking it? Why not do this to something that isn't so precious instead?
The chroming process could also make the very thin butted 531 tubing lose temper and you'll lose all of its 'life'.
If you have any feeling for old bikes, please don't do it.
-
If you want perfection, go to Argos or some other frame painter and pay three times the price. If you want a good job at a bargain price go to Vaz.
Mario is a good guy and does good work - but you must give him full written instructions.
I've had four frames painted by Mario and had repairs done by his brother to a very high standard. Yes, the paint is fairly soft compared with powder coating but it's not that bad. If he does make a mistake, he'll put it right without argument. As for lug lining, he can do that while you wait and it takes only a few minutes.
As a comparison, I had one frame refinished by Vaz and another by Argos, in the same colours of flam red with white panels. There was virtually no difference between them other than the lug lining was slightly better on the Argos frame, but they also applied one of the transfers incorrectly. Mario charged just over £100 and this included various new braze-ons and a new brake bridge. Argos charged £380, but this did include chromed ends.
Here's one frame he did for me. The picture speaks for itself I feel.
-
-
Pulled the frame from a skip 501 tubes the rest of the bits came from boot sales etc the only new part was the saddle
Any idea what it is? Frame looks exactly like a Claud Butler Saragoza (I think that's the name) that I had.
Old rigid steel framed MTBs like this cost peanuts and are easy to convert to ss.
-
nice stuff,
just wanted to say that the calipers are nuovo record not super record, the price is still good, they usually go for 55-60 on the bay.
Thanks for the info. Always suspected they were older than SR. Didn't really want to sell these but they've been kicking around unused for far too long with no suitable bike to put them on. I'll probably stumble upon a 1960s Cinelli frameset now that I've sold them...
-
-
I think it's a Holdsworth Typhoon from either
1952 or 53. Edit: Headtube lugs look more like the updated version which were only available in 58 & 59.I don't think the forks are the originals (the serial number on the fork steere should match the bb serial).
Very nice
Forks are definitely the originals as the number on the steerer tube matches the frame. That's the thing - the numbers don't match Holdsworth numbers for the period.
Here's one theory: in the 1950s and 1960s Holdsworth used to offer a re-enamelling service and it was not uncommon for them to put their own decals on other makers frames. The previous owner said he thought it might be a Pat Rohan frame. Not sure where he got that idea from though.
No doubt this extra info will make things as clear as mud...
-
Man, all I've got in my shed is a bent rake and a bag of dry peat. In fact, I don't even have a shed.
Okay, okay, this lot wasn't really in my shed - it was in the spare bedroom along with ten bikes and a whole heap of other stuff...
Everything is still available right now, including hubs and chainset.
-
-
CLASSIC 531 FRAMESET
This gorgeous frameset features 531 tubes, Oscar Egg Super Champion lugs and round-section fork blades. Chainstays are round-oval-round.
This probably dates from the late 1950s but it could be earlier (or perhaps a bit later) as this style of lugset was in use from the early 1950s. However I am not convinced that it is a Holdsworth as the frame number doesn't seem right. Whatever it is, this is a quality frame judging from the use of top-quality lugs and fittings. It also rides very well indeed - it's comfortable but is also responsive. It features braze-on fittings for brakes and gears. Brampton headset included. Extended dropouts on front forks. Semi-horizontal rear dropouts.
Size 24in c-t. Axle spacing 97mm/125mm.
£125 posted (or collect from Henley-on-Thames) or make me an offer (a sensible one!). NOW SOLD -
Having a bit of a shed-thinning session so these must go: Pista chainset and l/f hubs, Super Record brakes, Racing Triple rear mech.
All items will be at the Chalfont cycle jumble on Saturday (unless previously sold) so can be viewed/collected there.
1) Campagnolo Record Pista chainset with 165mm cranks, 48t ring (1/8th chain), 144mm pcd. Fluted cranks with shield logo. Post 1967 I think. All in very nice condition showing little signs of use.
£125 posted. (SOLD pending payment to BlueQuinn)2) Campagnolo Record Pista large flange hubs. 36/36 drilling. Complete with correct Campag lockring and chromed Campag track nuts. Front hub body drilled for oiling port. Front bearings are good, rear is useable but not so smooth and would benefit from a service.
£125 posted ONO.3) Campagnolo brake callipers. I think these are Super Record but not certain. Lovely condition. I pair of Campag pads included, possibly from a later model. Note that these are nut type fixing, not allen key type.
£45 posted (SOLD to pistolpedro)4) Campagnolo Racing Triple rear mech. For up to 9 speed but I used it with a friction shifter and six-speed block. Pivots all good and showing little sign of wear. Complete with original box.
£40 posted (SOLD to Skully) -
-
A few pointers...
Don't use waterslide transfers on powdercoat, make sure you get vynil.
Spray the adhesive side with water so that you can reposition if you don't quite get it right the first time, then smooth out and remove air bubbles and water using a credit card or similar.
For lug lining, try using a Zig paint pen from a hobby shop (Hobbycraft sell them). This is a lot easier than a brush. If you get it wrong, simply wipe off with white spirit and try again.
Good luck.
-
-
-
Looks like a Caad2 frame from the late 90s. A damn good frame, and very light too.
The later Caad 3 had a conical downtube (larger diameter towards the bottom bracket) and was even lighter. The Caad1 used a horizontal top tube I seem to recall.
If I sell my 1993 'dale M800 Beast of the East (for sale on this forum) I'd be tempted to buy it myself.