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Out of context but mountains with panniers is a piece of piss*

*this may not be true.

If you do that over 10 days then what distance minimum do you have to ride each day?

Then work out if you can ride that distance everyday AND more importantly if you don't ride that distance on a particular day* can you make it up the next day?

I always plan conservatively and then usually end up getting somewhere earlier than expected or use the extra time for detours/changes of route as I go along. I'd rather do this than not enjoy it because I'm chewing my stem through stupidly long days everyday though.

*due to weather, hills, mechanicals etc.

I've used it whilst cycling in France and Spain so far this year. It's great! I like it as I spend most of my time wildcamping so it's a good way to meet local people in towns/cities. Had some brilliant times with my hosts, everyone so far has been really friendly.

You don't have to pay for it even though they asked for a donation, it was optional.

I can't currently host when I'm in the UK at the moment as I don't really have a home, but if/when I do have somewhere I'll definitely offer my house to give something back.

It's not a definite no though is it...that tug is the same as the on-one and the one in the pic from google above. It's not designed for that use, but it isn't it dependent on the shape of your drop out and whether there are suitable spots for the tug bolts to sit on?

Yorkshire 29er ride*? I'm in. :)

(*just need to take a skills course so I can actually ride my Swift and do it justice! ;))

Anyone know how long Belk bags usually take to reply to email...bit worried the one I sent them on Tuesday has ended up in their junk mail folder or something.

soperRiva would something like this or this get a Carradice or Ortlieb bar bag out in front of your brake levers so solving your problem.

I'm guessing at 43 or 45mm possibly not?

Oh so it is, whoop! dunno why I thought he was japanese, need to go to sleep.

it look like a student project, he got other stuff in his folder, like his home made bike trailer which look like a definte porn;

That looks just like a copy of a BOB trailer. http://www.bobgear.com/trailers/

they look a bit like the rigida aero rims to me. Forgotten what they're called.

dp18?

Crankset + BB + hub + cog (+ bar tape / grips) = your name

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Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Royce + EAI = kowalski
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record 111mm (80's) + Phil + Phil = tristoo
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Hub + Phil Cog = Sparky's Fuji
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Athena + Phils (Hub and cog) (+ Fizik bar tape) = Jonny
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Campag Pista = Platini
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record + Royce + eai = briankwan
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Dura Ace + Dura Ace = Skully (can't be straight, I never get anything right)
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Sano
Campagnolo Pista + Specialities TA + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = VelocityBoy
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Araya + Phil Wood = 50/14
Campagnolo PIsta + Campag Veloce 111mm + System-EX + Condor = hladik
Campag Record Pista - Campag Centaur 111mm - Campag Record Pista - Phil Wood - the-smiling-buddha
Campag Record Pista + Record pista + Record Pista + Dura ace = gizmond
Campag Record Pista + Token tiramic 111mm + Ambrosio + Phil Wood + VO sewn-on elkhide= Smallfurry (BB asymmetric, buggerit)
Campag Record Pista + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5 + Phil Wood + EAI = Jonesy
Campag Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Dura Ace Hb7600 + Dura Ace = Cornelius Blackfoot
Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Centaur 111mm+Miche Primato+Condor CNC=Cosmonaut
Campagnolo Record Pista+Stronglight 110 ISO+Campag Record Road screw on with large spacer swapped from DS to NDS+Trialtech Sport=Mitre_Tester
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Royce + On-One (& others) = BMMF
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Campag Record Pista + EAI = entwidomela

Dotek:
Dotek cheapy + Campag Mirage + Formula + Dura-Ace = fc9k
Dotek cheapy + UN26/113mm + OnOne small flange double fixed hub + Miche1/8sprocket = xroads

Dura-Ace:
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = hassanr
Dura-Ace 7600 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Surly = Dayno
Dura-Ace + UN72/110mm + Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Object
Dura-Ace + UN53/107mm + Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Dura-Ace + UN54/107mm + Dura Ace + Phil = Shinscar
Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace BB-7610 + Dura-Ace 7600 + EAI = flickwg
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + Novatec + some shit = Ant
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 (109.5) + Dura Ace HB7600 + Dura Ace 1/8 = RPM dura-fuckin-ace.
Dura-Ace all the way baby... = dovoneil
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 + Dura Ace HB7600 + EAI = town
Dura-Ace Old school 151 + UN54+ Sys Ex + On One= Eyebrows perfect (dangermouse)
Dura-Ace + UN54 110 + Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace = Charco
Dura-Ace + Stronglight JP400 + Phil + Andel = euan

Miche:
Miche + Miche +Miche + Andel + Miche = fixedfreak (max)
Miche + Campag Record 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Miche + Miche + Velosteel coaster = gizmond
Miche + Campag Record 109mm + Phil + Phil = gizmond
Miche + Miche + Navigator Pista + EAI = gizmond also
Miche + Sugino + Miche + EAI = Shinscar (surly)
Miche Primato Pista + Shimano UN54/110mm + Formula + Dura Ace = CHUG_IT
MIche Primato Pista + Miche + On-One + EAI = ummar01
Miche (Condor-branded) + Miche 107mm (cups adjusted 2mm towards drivechain) + Goldtec + EAI 1/8" = eeehhhh {46mm chainline}
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Condor(IRO) + Surly = edscoble
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche = Hovis Brown
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche Pista = 50/14
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI = hamster
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Mavic 520 Piste + Roselli = entwidomela
Miche Advanced + Miche + Dia Compe Grand Compe + EAI = gizmond
Miche Advanced + Campagnolo Athena adjustable 111mm + Dia Compe Gran Compe + Miche Primato = a|s (although my driveside chainstay is out of whack by 5mm or so)
Miche Primato Advanced + fyxomantosis chainring 49t + royce titanium + phil wood 16t + fizik = germanmarc

Stronglight:
Stronglight + UN53/107mm + Sys-X + Formula= MA3K
Stronglight + Shimano UN73/110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Stronglight + Stronglight + SystemEx + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Stronglight + UN72/107mm + Miche + EAI = Richard Cheese (all 3/32)
Stronglight + Shitmano UN54/118mm + Goldtec + Surly/EAI (on 130mm dropouts for 50mm chainline, Pomino, Genesis singlespeed etc..)= RPM
Stronglight + Sugino / 103mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" = Superprecise
Stronglight + Shimano + System EX + BLB = maxcrowe
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" (42mm chainline) = Spiny
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Goldtec + Condor = lightindustrialunit

Sugino 75:
Sugino 75 + Miche + Condor (non Goldtec) + Dura Ace = brett
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap & Fred
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
Sugino 75 + Miche + Campag + DA = gizmond
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Wapping Warrior
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Phil + EAI Superstar = Object
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Goldtech + Phil Wood = Dancing James
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = Broker
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= biles
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Formula + Dura Ace = TooTallTim
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Campagnolo C.Record + Sugino Gigas = moose76
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace (109mm) + Phil Wood + EAI regular (euro asia imports) = moose76
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = shootthebreeze
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = works
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + EAI Superstar = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Royce 103mm JIS + Royce + EAI Superstar = welpeur
Sugino 75 + Stronglight + Phil Wood + Dura Ace (+ cut down odyssey grips) = jonny
Sugino 75 + Campag 111mm + Formula + EAI = maxcrowe
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Dura Ace + EAI = mikec

Sugino Messenger/RD:
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood = chris crash
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Ambrosio + Condor = Shinscar (clown)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino/103mm + Gran Compe + EAI = VED
Sugino Messenger + Sugino + Hope track + EAI = Aleksi
Sugino Super Mighty + Sugino 109 + Dura Ace + Phil Wood = Dayno
Sugino RD + Sugino + Ambrosio + Miche = asm } both are pretty much spot on
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Sys-X + Dura Ace = MA3K
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Dura Ace/Andel = ChrisNW {44 front, 42 rear}
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Halo + Halo = Hotwls
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + OnOne = -=Mike=-
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Surly O.L.D. + Surly/Miche/Dicta = ShannonBall
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Dura Ace = Pifko
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Sys Ex + Miche = Eightball69
Sugino RD + UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI= hamster
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Formula track hub +Miche sprocket (Miche lockring will no fit this hub) = gtvlusso
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Gran Compe + Token/Andel = Balki
Sugino RD (On inside ring) + Sugino/103mm+ Formula + Surly = entwidomela
Sugino RD +Sugino/ 103mm + OnOne + Andel = welpeur

Misc.:
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Forumla + EAI = Jaimes
Andel/BLB + Sugino 103mm + zenith/formula + surly = dinosaur
Camapgnolo road double (Croce D'Aune) + 111mm ACH + Goldtec + Miche or On One or Surly or EAI 3/32nd = AlexB
Campagnolo Double + Shimano + Formula + DA = Tobyprice
Campagnolo Record time trial + FAG Nadax + SJS + Beans Cycles = BlueQuinn
Campagnolo Veloce Double + Campag Veloce + SystemEx = Hovis Brown
Campagnolo Veloce Triple + Campag Veloce + Goldtec + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Campag Veloce UT+Record UT+Mavic Ellipse+Phil Wood/EAI Gold Medal=Mitre_Tester
FSA Vero + 110mm cheapo cartridge + Dura-Ace/SurlyFixer/Shimano LX = N3lson
FSA Vero + Miche + Gran Compe + DA = VED (spot on chainline)
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 110mm + System EX + On-One = Buddha Fingaz
FSA Vigorelli + ISIS BB of indeterminate width + Phil + Condor = hippynice
Gipiemme Pista + Campag 111mm + Mavic + Dura-Ace (also Goldtec + Miche) = ondine
Gusset Pygmy 853 (gusset chainwheel) + Gusset Euro bb (145mm spindle) + Goldtec + EAI = hassanr
Middleburn RS1+ Shimano XT 68 113mm + White Bros Eno + Surly/ Miche = tommid
Ofmega 49t + Campag + Miche + DA = Tobyprice
Ofmega 52 tooth + Shimano/110mm Italian thrd + Formula + Surly = P!MP(somehow it works)
Pake + UN54 107mm + SJS/Formula + Miche = Frankie_j
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = yorkiefix
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + paul + phil = flickwg, nosferatu BIG UP PAUL COMP
Paul Comp + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5mm + Paul Comp + Surly = Jonesy
Paul + Centaur111+ Profile + EAI= Eyebrows. Geekhouse (45mm thereabouts)
Profil Race Cranks with Gusset Chainring, Profile Euro BB, Philwood, Philwood = Object
RPM + Shimano UN54/110mm + Condor (non-Goldtec) + Condor = Brett
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm + Goldtec 126mm track hub + 3/32 EAI = Prime heretic
Shimano 600 Road Double + Shimano 107mm + System Ex + a cog (possibly) = hippy TI Raleigh
Shimano 600 road double(gebhardt chainring) + Shimano 107mm + Systemex +cheapy cog = BrianClose
Shimano sora double + Prestine threadless 110.5 + on-one dble fixed + on one = Bernhard (42mm I think)
Shimano Sora (Double - Inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/107mm + Novatech Hubs + Miche
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + 105 Hollowtech + Formula + Shimano BMX freewheel = ctznsmith
SR Apex 165 (118bcd) + Shimano UN54/115mm + System Ex (Condor) + Dura-Ace = cold blow
SR Sakae + Shimano UN54/118mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Andel = ChrisNW {42mm}
Sugino Langster Speciales + Sugino 103mm + System Ex + Ye Olde Englishe Coge = hippymess
Suntour Superbe Pro + Phil 108mm JIS + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
TA + TA(314) + Campag + Miche = Fruitbat
TA Alize Piste+Stronglight 110 ISO+Goldtec+Miche=Mitre_Tester
Truvativ + (??) stock bianchi pista + phil wood + EAI = asm }
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + On-One Hubs + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium+Truvativ GXP+Navigator Pista+Miche=Mitre_Tester's sister-in-law
White Industries + Phil + Milwaukee(Ben's) + EAI = Archi Pelago
White Industries + Shimano longy+ LeVeL 135 + LeVeL = Eyebrows 52mm chainline!
White Industries + Shimano/110mm + Phils + White Industries = big daddy wayne
Zeus Pista (circa 80's) + Campag Pista 109mm + Formula + Miche = tristoo
Sugino Maxy + 3SB (121.5mm asymmetric) cup&cone + Miche + EAI = welpeur
Mighty (£15 ebay) + Shimano un54 122.5mm + sjsc hub+ sjsc cog = ile

@machineisbored you're close with the comic reference there was definitely a picture of the Joker from Batman in my brain when I went green and purple.

The s/s beater/commuter is finished! :)

Rode to work today and it felt very different to my other bike (which is expected)...now to see how long the rear wheel I built lasts!

I couldn't believe how weird it felt to ride on flats after being used to SPD's...I've put flats on the s/s commuter as I do get annoyed when you have to unclip at traffic lights (I need more track standing practice ;) )

Leeds -> Otley with no hills you have to basically avoid the Chevin. So either the main road out past Adel that intersects pool bank. Or up through Horsforth and Rawdon into Guiseley and round to Otley...if you do this from Guiseley you can go straight on along the bottom of the valley to Menston/Burley in Wharfdale and Ilkley. There are always going to be some hills but those routes will avoid those that are particularly steep or long. Sadly it's the main roads that tend to be the least steep/hilly.

1. Rod Munch
   
2. JonoMarshall
   
3. aufbruch
   
4. Buddha Fingaz
   
5. Dracula
   
6. porter7474 (pm'd earlier)
   
7. Vinylvillain
   
8. AdamM
   
9. Timmy2wheels
   
10. BleakReference
    11.Casp
    
11. The_BMX-KId
    
12. Sol
    
13. oval (2 pairs, and far, far away from London)
    
14. Befixed (PM written)
    
15. philosovril, needs postage or a friend could pick them up at EHBPC if possible
    
16. Loop
    
17. Marc_77 (Newcastle, PM sent)
    
18. Sammy - Pick up from wherever in London - sorry dude!
    
19. nikuls
    21.Stein(need postage, pm coming)
    
20. Edmundro - can have cash money ready in about a week or two. Army green a possibility?
    
21. MonkeyDXIII
    
22. can_i_have_a_p_please_bob
    
23. overandout
    
24. jv
    27.hmmbutterscotch
    
25. Wannabe
    
26. nikT (possibly 3 pairs and not close to london at all)
    
27. Velonoir (I PMed you about this a day or so ago)
    
28. Ricky2Slicky
    
29. ctznsmith
    
    

Screw it, I think they'll fit. If not excuse for new/better pedals. :)

Well reading this I've learnt that cross frames had higher bottom brackets...nice.

Wtf what retard came up with handlebar cupholders? ><

'We' were discussing this at the weekend and reckon that a stem mounted cup holder at the front would be a much better idea. :)

Still the issue with spillage, but if you have those plastic lids on you should be safe from flying boiling liquid. At the end of the bars is stupid though.

Looking pretty hip Benny, is it going to be SS or fixed- cos those tyres are shite if you skid!

Alright Greg, I was expecting a comment telling me to cut my bars down! ;)

Flip-flop...probably start off ss and then give fixed a go if I feel the burning desire. Hence front and rear brakes.

Slowly coming along, fitted the chainset and bottom bracket after I took this.

Suddenly the sadle I thought I'd set flat seems to be pointing up?

The Juicer seems to be priced around the same as similarly specced bikes from other brands.

I'd quite like a cargo bike (xtracycle or big dummy).

But more importantly somewhere to store it!! ;)

Yes.

How old are the cottered cranks? You may require some form of hammer a peice of pipe, a decent set of pliers and some WD40. ;)

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cotters.html

No UCI rules = experimentation with things that are supposed to be 'better'/more aerodynamic I guess.

Thanks JOL, I'll inspect my pedals. :)

Would you actually even get anywhere? Surely you'd spin like hell go minimal distance and then lose your balance.

(Cue someone with good maths/gear ratios knowledge to work out if this is correct)