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Well. This pretty much proves it's the team. Klopp is a good manager, and Rodgers was decent. But this team needs some serious work, if we want to finish near the top

Not who i was thinking of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4OJoXKWTBk

I don't think it works like that. No-one is going to pay you out on something that is still extremely unlikely.

But... you could hedge it. Offer odds on betfair or wherever, that Chelsea go down, that's higher than market rate, and see if anyone bites. As long as your position is less than the £3755 you'll make if Chelsea do go down, then you win either way.

Say you take a £50 bet at 50:1, if Chelsea go down, you end up with total of $1205. If they don't, you've made £45.

Obviously, if you seriously think Chelsea will go down, then don't do this.

IANAFA

:(

Away goals

They have 3, you would have 1

But now you are winning 3-0, so should be fine

Well, the point is over the two games between you they were better (in theory). I think that's fair enough

So, which game to watch...

How did Chelsea and Arsenal end up playing the same day. I thought teams from the same city are meant to be paired off, and play one each day... Surely they'd pair the manchester teams, and the london teams

Yes, I know, 3 months too late. Another year of good intentions ended in not nearly enough kms (also lots of short ones I didn't strava).

Also, Toronto is very rectangular

I'm going to be in town 28th to 2nd. Not going to play, but would come and hang, if there is polo

Ha

Missed Preston, Huddersfield, Portsmouth.

I had no idea Sunderland had so much history

The names of the San Bernadino shooters have been released. I'd say it's a safe bet how that's going to be labelled by the right, regardless of the actual motive.

I'd agree with that. It's certainly to a significant part Britain's fault. I just see more of the same making it worse.

They didn't approve military action. And if the do went military action, it should be under a unified UN force, not individual member states taking action in their own name.

Well, my point is it's really not Britain's business at all. Let the UN deal with it. Just stay out of it, with the exception of taking in any refugees, who don't want to live there.

There are plenty of other countries who are doing absolutely nothing, and I don't see why Britain needs to be different.

No. But it's not my choice to make.

I dunno, maybe realise Britain is a small island on the edge of Europe, not the empire any more, and doesn't need continue trying to be world policeman (in Syria, Iraq or elsewhere). Let the UN deal with it. That's what it's meant to be there for.

Maybe negotiate with IS, and let them have their Islamic Caliphate if that's what they want, but be willing to take in those who don't want to be part of it. Bad regimes have a habit of falling in the long run.

But either way don't start bombing people, because killing someone's family is not the best way to make friends.

Can we sharpen our pencil

pfft, whatever

FFS, another mass shooting in the US happening right now:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html

Lol, Rodgers to Newcastle rumours.

I would love it

I'd say it's pretty safe to say that this year could be our year.

What have they got against the UN?

Hmm, England vs France, or Denmark vs Sweden.

I suspect the second will be a better game