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Downsides - Cheaper rubber can crack and split. Also can whiff a little depending on how tight you wear it and how often you take it off.

Might also be applicable to other types of 'wearable' rubber, but I wouldn't know...

Is that bronze? Interested to see more pics as the colour develops.

Pull the trigger. It sounds like it'll add to your appreciation of the watch.

^This.

Ok. This makes sense. My bad. We've exchanged PM's and this is not an issue.

I just wanted to explain what happened to my daughter. The fact that I even can (after the event) is a good example of issue resolution. All good.

This.

Filtered pass stationary traffic, saw the unmistakable glow of a mobile phone's screen on a driver's hand, slapped on the side of the bonnet, and rode off.

I actually did not see you wave apart from the glow of your phone.

I'm sorry if you're just taking the phone out to give to your daughter, it's an extremely common sight to see someone having their phone out even on a mild congestion nowadays, I hope you understand how this look.

Possibly. But we were stationary.

I told my daughter that by strange serendipity I should be able to find out why he was annoyed. Also I'm genuinely interested in where I went wrong.

#resonsibleparent

Strange and not altogether pleasant spot. Ed could you help fill in the blanks please?

Sir Scoble: ...
Me: Crawling to a stop at some lights 5 meters ahead
Me: My daughter in the passenger seat asks for my mobile
Sir Scoble: ...
Me: I take out my phone, and unlock.
Sir Scoble: ...
Sir Scoble: Pulls in front
Me: Hands phone to daughter
Me: Recognising him, give a smile and short wave
Sir Scoble: ...
Sir Scoble: Smacks the car bonnet with some serious indignation and rides off
Me: confused
Sir Scoble: ...
My Daughter: (Scared by the weirdo cyclist) asks me what's wrong
Me: (Still confused, thinks hard) speculates that Sir Scoble might have been annoyed that I had a phone in my hand despite being stopped at lights?
My Daughter: I hope you don't scare people like that when you are riding
Me: I try not to

#csb

^^^ just watched that BBC clip... It's actually an excerpt from The Watchmaker's Apprentice.

#fullcircle

If you get a chance, I'd recommend hunting down 'The Watchmaker's Apprentice'.

The film will tour the festival circuit in 2013 before looking to broadcast and general release in 2014.

I watched it at SalonQP last year. It's a documentary about how Roger W. Smith became George Daniel's apprentice.

Fascinating.

^ This.
#ignoranceisbliss

Thanks. Very helpful.

Gustins - I signed up a couple of months back and am finally getting round to ordering. Couple of questions:

1. Are there any additional import duty charges for shipping to the UK?
   
2. Damn vanity sizing... I typically buy 32's, but when I measured using the Gustin fit guide, I seem to be a 35(!). So is their fit guide any good? Any advice on sizes?
   

Mechanical with electronic regulation

Urwerk EMC

Just seen the prices! i'm out

Prices around $120k... I'm out too.

Sorted.

^ Generally agree with you b&d except that the most important reason has to be that the watch excites and interests you. After all, hopefully you are going to wear it.

I know what I like and what I don't. I also don't care what others think of my watch, I get a little rise everytime I check the time.

Buying for investment is either a bonus or just boring... So CB is right (!).

^^^^^ Agreed. <42mm can >>>>>>

Too many tourists blocking my exit.

I tried on the non-tourbillon version in Harrods over the summer. 24g all in and amazing. TBH was pretty surprised they even let me. No harm in asking.

Rapha's Rafa's, nice but very pricey, upgraded weight weenies watch seems to have done the trick.

Tourbillon, 19g with starp! Porn.

Should I spend £1500 on a Heuer Calculator?

No. Why?

I don't actually have £1500, but I have a credit card.

This every day!

Tbh Tag's aren't my thing. For me, the brand is still tarnished by the 80's and 90's where everyone seemed to either have one or got a fake instead. That said I do think they are producing some interesting stuff these days (like the Mikrograph).

Heurer's (pre-Tag) on the other hand are still interesting for some reason... Maybe it's just the 'Tag' bit.

Anything going that fast makes me feel sick , and a little nervous it's gonna catch fire !

The Tag Mikrograph takes it to another level. 1/100th sec chrono... 90 min power reserve on the chrono.

Then you have the movement just for the chronograph. Its escapement operates as a blazing 360,000bph - wow!

List info here.

1. Velocio +jersey +race
   
2. jonny + jersey
   
3. Kirth +jersey
   
4. Emyr +jersey +race
   
5. Ramaye +jersey
   
6. Sam_w +jersey
   
7. EEI + jersey + race
   
8. edscoble + jersey
   
9. HatBeard +jersey
   
10. WjPrince +jersey +race
    
11. Tyrrell +jersey
    
12. villa-ru +jersey
    
13. howard +jersey+race
    
14. Soul +jersey
    
15. middleofnowhere + jersey
    
16. cliveo + jersey
    
17. CheBeef + jersey
    
18. Beseku +jersey
    
19. Indra +jersey
    
20. O'Shane +jersey +race
    
21. 'brows + jersey + race
    
22. dry +jersey
    
23. bothwell +jersey
    
24. Lynchman+jersey+race :\
    
25. upstart +jersey
    
26. ap8006 +jersey +race
    
27. Drewzy +jersey
    
28. Temp + Jersey
    
29. wools + Jersey + absolutely zero intention of racing
    
30. roboto +jersey +race
    
31. Finger Jockey +jersey +race
    
32. ncjlee + jersey + CTT racing if such a thing exists
    
33. steves + jersey
    
34. Hairnetnic + jersey +race
    
35. rogan +jersey
    
36. BlueQuinn +jersey +race
    
37. Scoot +jersey +race
    
38. Chris_tim + Jersey + Race
    
39. BGA + Jersey
    
40. Snake Fist + jersey + race
    
41. crimsonape + jersey + race
    
42. Mi7rennie + jersey + race
    
43. Skully + jersey
    
44. betty +jersey
    
45. jakemcree +jersey
    
46. PQR +jersey +race
    
47. overtheroad +jersey
    
48. paramounted + jersey
    
49. privatepatterson + jersey [i'd like two if possible]
    
50. branwen + jersey
    
51. simy + jersey
    
52. Blackfoot + jersey
    
53. Shoosh + jersey
    
54. Wobboy + jersey
    
55. mjs110 + jersey + race
    
56. Pinkgottimobbs + Jersey (no race for now as in NZ)
    
57. Sam Dunn + jersey + race
    
58. fasih + jersey
    
59. T4 + jersey
    
60. blowfish+jersey+race
    
61. sumo + jersey + race
    
62. B0N0R + jersey + race
    
63. eone+ jersey
    
64. b&d + jersey (but + race when I return from excessive heat training)
    
65. HORRO + jersey
    
66. fade +jersey +race
    
67. BareNecessities +jersey
    
68. Nigel182 + jersey + race
    
69. So Gewurzt it hurtz +jersey +race
    
70. jdp + jersey+ race
    
71. Stonehedge + jersey+ race
    
72. rive gauche + jersey
    
73. dj + jersey
    
74. dublinkevin + jersey
    
75. AllezSzmyd + jersey
    
76. Arvy + race
    
77. Idiot + jersey
    
78. n3il + jersey
    
79. 'dan + jersey
    
80. kristian + jersey + race
    
81. Pete + jersey
    
82. Doctor Cake + jersey + race
    
83. Thoma + jersey + race
    
84. Aroogah +jersey
    
85. LongandWinding +jersey
    
86. BisonIncandenza +jersey+race
    
87. KamalRB +jersey
    
88. Stintane +jersey
    
89. Regal + jersey
    
90. almac68 + jersey
    
91. 5awyr +jersey +race(probably)
    
92. starfish and coffee +jersey +race
    
93. Clever Pun +jersey +race
    
94. danstuff + jersey
    
95. youramericanlover + jersey
    
96. poots + jersey + race
    
97. Saibot + jersey + race
    
98. 6pt + jersey
    
99. STE5 + jersey
    
100. Tommy + jersey + race
     
101. Jezston +jersey
     
102. Edmundro +jersey
     
103. Johnnyhotdog + jersey
     
104. JLaw +jersey
     
105. ChainBreaker + Jersey (a few as I didn't get enough of the Sharkpits!)
     
106. Inchpincher + Jersey
     
107. A + Jersey+ Commuter Racing + Strava Member
     
108. umop3pisdn + Jersey
     
109. Tris + jersey
     
110. HairyChris +jersey
     
111. wildmaurice +jersey
     
112. richardaldred + jersey
     
113. SE1derful + jersey
     
114. Kat + jersey + race
     
115. h2o + jersey + race
     
116. Dull +jersey
     
117. Chung + jersey + race
     
118. hoefla +jersey
     
119. IAmNotARobot + jersey
     
120. lardboy + jersey + race
     
121. vunugu +jersey
     
122. Dramatic Hammer +jersey
     
123. mands + jersey + race
     
124. littleheather + jersey + race
     
125. Marco + jersey + race (if needed to try out the Velodrome)
     
126. 1+n + jersey
     
127. alfie +jersey +race
     
128. seven04 +jersey +race
     
129. Khornight2 +jersey
     
130. desouz +jersey
     
131. Clockwork_killa +jersey
     
132. Colin the Bald + jersey
     
133. Tenners +jersey +(?)race
     
134. esstee +jersey
     
135. xsvcx +jersey
     
136. twitch + jersey + race
     
137. T P + jersey + race
     
138. N16commuter + jersey
     
139. dicki + jersey + race
     
140. Amygdala + jersey + race
     
141. tommmmmmm + jersey
     
142. amey + jersey
     
143. gregrecovery + jersey
     
144. Hovis + jersey + race
     
145. Hoke + jersey + race (for one more year...)
     
146. LaurenceCardiff + jersey
     
147. Jiffyam + jersey
     
148. Moserism + jersey + race
     
149. Oldskoolracer + jersey + race
     
150. mdcc_tester (Scr.)
     
151. robcook + jersey + race
     
152. jaw + jersey
     
153. Mirius + jersey + CTT
     
154. malandro + jersey + race
     
155. 7VEN + jersey
     
156. andy rolls +jersey+race
     
157. Cazakstan +jersey
     
158. azzcoles + jersey
     
159. Bibble + jersey + race
     
160. Mihajaru + jersey
     
161. Hobo + Jersey
     
162. MrDrem + jersey + race
     
163. Primitive Robot + jersey
     
164. Gussio + jersey + race
     
165. gralegav + jersey
     
166. apollo + jersey
     
167. lostsociety +jersey
     
168. bjj22 + jersey
     
169. mec + jersey
     
170. Mobidog + jersey + race
     
171. jpb + jersey
     
172. M8! + jersey + race
     

I might as well give up on the bike porn thread and most of this forum, and instead resign myself to a 2nd hand Create. I've never spent more than 10 dorrah on a bike...

pub talk conclusions >>>>>>>>>>>>

Just been talking about this very subject in the pub with horatio and object...

Conclusion? We're all idiots*...

• That is, watch thread people are idiots... Man bracelets as Mrak puts it...
  
  

BTW I've never spent more than £160 on a watch...